From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 18 20:05:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 677B3E2E; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CBC196E; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.60.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C383BD1A; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sBIK50ZE077323; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:05:00 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: John Baldwin Subject: Re: Change default VFS timestamp precision? In-reply-to: <201412181436.31701.jhb@freebsd.org> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <201412161348.41219.jhb@freebsd.org> <70449.1418843354@critter.freebsd.dk> <201412181436.31701.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <77321.1418933100.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:05:00 +0000 Message-ID: <77322.1418933100@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , Adrian Chadd , Jilles Tjoelker X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:05:08 -0000 -------- In message <201412181436.31701.jhb@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin writes: >> >Surely there has to be better ways of doing this stuff. Computers keep >> >getting faster; it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that we >> >could see a compiler read, compile and spit out a .o inside of a >> >millisecond. (Obviously not C++, but..) >> >> A millisecond is pushing it, all things considered, it would have to >> be an utterly trivial source file for a utterly trivial language. >Eh, the use case I most care about is back-to-back updates to a directory on >an NFS server. My comments above was only about compilers in reference to Adrians point. >I don't understand >why you think TSP_USEC is slower than TSP_NSEC. microtime() and nanotime() >both just call bintime() and then convert the result using similar math. Because of the pointless nano->micro conversion which makes TSP_USEC take a division longer to deliver a less precise result than TSP_NSEC. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.