Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:14:56 -0800 From: Michael Smith <msmith@freebsd.org> To: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, Benno Rice <benno@jeamland.net>, Kirk McKusick <mckusick@freebsd.org>, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/ufs/ffs ffs_alloc.c ffs_extern.h ffs_softdep.c Message-ID: <200201230314.g0N3Eud04579@mass.dis.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:20:13 PST." <20020122102013.A21075@xor.obsecurity.org>
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> On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 01:26:30PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Benno Rice <benno@jeamland.net> writes: > > > This change breaks kernels without softupdates. > >=20 > > Why do we even bother supporting that? (apart from the fact that the > > installation kernel is built without SU, though it would greatly > > benefit from it: in most cases, installation is bounded by the > > filesystem write speed) > > I don't think softupdates should be mandatory. From time to time > there have been bugs introduced (into -current at least), which make > it desirable for some people to turn it off for a while. You can turn it off without removing the code. Personally, I'd prefer to remove the option (always build the code) and default to enabling it on new filesystems. Kirk's recent commit removes the last major objection to this. As for the "small systems" argument - a small system should use a smaller filesystem. 8) -- Go where you may, search where you will, roam throughout all the monarchies and despotisms of the Old World, travel through South America, search out every abuse and when you have found the last, lay your facts by the everyday practices of this nation, and you will say with me that, for revolting barbarity and shameless hypocrisy, America reigns without a rival... - Frederic Douglass, Independence Day Address, 1852 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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