From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 08:55:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66041106566B; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mh@kernel32.de) Received: from crivens.kernel32.de (crivens.asm68k.org [81.169.171.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275E68FC0C; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mh@kernel32.de) Received: from www.terrorteam.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crivens.kernel32.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFF5B02E8; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:39:24 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:39:23 +0100 From: Marian Hettwer To: Maxim Sobolev In-Reply-To: <49743B52.5040108@FreeBSD.org> References: <49743B52.5040108@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <87233becc6141aa652478f1b3cef36f1@localhost> X-Sender: mh@kernel32.de User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1-rc2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Erich Dollansky , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NTFS in GENERIC: opt-in or opt-out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:55:07 -0000 On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:35:30 -0800, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 23:25 -0800, Maxim Sobolev wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am reviewing differences between amd64 and i386 GENERIC kernels and >>> noticed that for some unclear reason we ship amd64 GENERIC with NTFS >>> module compiled in, while i386 without it. IMHO both should match. The >>> question is whether NTFS should be i386 way (opt in) or amd64 way (opt >> >> the Windows file system? >> >> I would use opt-in as most people will not need it. > > Any particular reason why not? Memory is cheap, 100-200KB of extra > kernel code doesn't really matter today, while NTFS is probably the most > widespread filesystem after MSDOS. Therefore supporting it in the > GENERIC out of the box even in the read-only mode (our NTFS driver is > read-only AFAIK) could benefit many users. > I'd like to have it loaded as a modile on demand, as soon as I try to mount_ntfs. I would throw it out of GENERIC if its up to me. Although I don't have technical arguments for throwing it out of GENERIC ;) Cheers, ./Marian