From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 3 8:54:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (cc449817-a.mrtnz1.ga.home.com [24.12.79.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508FF37B41A for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:54:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (localhost.wa4phy.net [127.0.0.1]) by vortex.wa4phy.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g03GsGl67276; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:54:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sam@wa4phy.net) Message-ID: <3C348CB8.392BD1EF@vortex.wa4phy.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:54:16 -0500 From: Sam Drinkard Organization: You Gotta Be Kiddin! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nils Holland Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Printing Question References: <3C339CDA.C74F940A@vortex.wa4phy.net> <20020103111011.A1591@tisys.org> <3C347256.3990CC69@vortex.wa4phy.net> <20020103173348.B4460@tisys.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My point exactly Nils, You and I both know windoze is not customizable at all other than changing a few doo-dads or eye candy. My whole point is, if we are keeping up with "technology" per-se, and the defacto standard is now PCL, why do we support the postscript language other than the same reason we support things that too have been replaced with more versatile apps -- like perl, to take the place of, or become more useful than say, shell programming? Both have their place, but face it, perl scripts are more powerful than shell programming, and can do everything that sh can do. Again, my whole point in the discussion was if we are moving forward to better things, why is it that PCL has not made it into the generic (or at least add-on) packages for unix. And again, where are you going to find a native PS printer the average person will or can afford? I can't, and won't. I can take that $1200 for a true PS printer and find many more things or toys to spend it on, and get probably just as good a result from a $100 ink-jet printer. In this case, it's more than a matter of choice too.. I'd be willing to bet there are lots of folks who, if have the need to print, will do it on a windoze box rather than go thru the efforts (albeit very little) to set up apsfilter or any of the other postscript interpreters and print drivers. IMHO, there should be some direction to having pcl or whatever else the newer printers speak in included in at least as a port. Leave the native PS printing in, by all means. I'm sure someone who runs a server and has the pockets deep enough to afford a networked printer wouldn't change a thing unless he/she could save a few bux when something breaks. This is not, by any way of interpretation, trying to start a windoze vs. unix discussion. Merely a discussion about current technology and ideas. If I were a programmer, I'd be most happy to attempt to write a pcl enhancement for Unix, but I'm merely an old "appliance operator" so to speak. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message