From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 25 22:00:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EE716A4CE for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:00:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com (smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E469143D3F for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.199.245 with login) by smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2004 22:00:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAC561B7; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:00:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 72278-07; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:00:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from www.noacks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCBE6193; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:00:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 69.53.57.66 (SquirrelMail authenticated user noackjr); by www.noacks.org with HTTP; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:00:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <17337.69.53.57.66.1093471244.squirrel@69.53.57.66> In-Reply-To: <20040825204531.75239F987@gemini.nersc.gov> References: Message from Darcy Buskermolen <200408251255.53472.darcy@wavefire.com> <20040825204531.75239F987@gemini.nersc.gov> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:00:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jon Noack" To: "Eli Dart" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: Darcy Buskermolen Subject: Re: TCP SACK backport to -STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:00:49 -0000 Eli Dart wrote: > Careful there.....one major reason I use FreeBSD is that, compared > with the other operating systems I can use, major breakages are rare. > > I expect the policy that prevents you from deploying the most > featureful OS available is there to avoid the late-night pain > required to run the latest and greatest features in production. > > It would be a shame if stability were lost in a rush for new > features. If smarter people than I feel that SACK should be > backported, great. However, I for one greatly appreciate the > commitments to stability and POLA that are so much a part of FreeBSD. >From the Release Engineering document: FreeBSD-CURRENT is the "bleeding-edge" of FreeBSD development where all new changes first enter the system. FreeBSD-STABLE is the development branch from which major releases are made. Changes go into this branch at a different pace, and with general assumption that they have first gone into FreeBSD-CURRENT and have been thoroughly tested by our user community. These types of backports happen all the time, and having another person to share the load is not a bad thing. Active maintenance of RELENG_4 is good for everyone, and those interested most likely have stability as their first priority anyway (because otherwise they wouldn't be using RELENG_4). Regardless, the original work was done on RELENG_4 and ported to -CURRENT: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2004-June/025956.html Jon