From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Dec 30 21:42:48 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74B81EB179 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic313-20.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic313-20.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.65.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47mrWW1yM1z4Wrb for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: wKhLJp8VM1n.pTWGUYPAl.4tjIKadYz.3eE4Yz71fqq3Oio9q5TODyDmGiGgsYz YnughzDMuEJiMTwsgs7YPeVnQ0ZA1BlsGlI__6LIOHsptLoSvoKl8RmVbnllNaHriomCvANve3PX eNbsFmFc1F7oJ6iMWjCLaTWWoqd8OmOH0gLhOKeuJdCSikI2Re88DLokFI0K_gOACzBDnd_hWGyv _Ag.1ZgVzkqRhjbMMpnJDU6MfPL13LUwFoqJRz3W8Ia6jK6rWeAcs9GH02jn63FuqjnB.HJEKv6C ALrXYysIssXpQKfkN6pwHdHsogTMFkF6ErQUQMVUbjSErCSL4pdbfa4c24vpEHLLfnVqcsCfhIzc eRZ9ndYywsw_GbxtELJBQhwChJ54hO47kxOy0uNHhCwL4FA6unqiAFrm6Y20qMSGbVigUPg2POWQ 4BX7MJbxshbQSxLk4AachNwxn6AM_gUesx2LlSSF0KG.C9gG4WdunZ9z7iar0NdYoTp9M7PWaiLE zSLzj47mc_QQU5u5H3sV0vVA_MtujeVbCaaCyC3ql.H93pSwMU_PQfh3LdNGcZASrkiJKfijb5.v j5dkhujYj_cpy8nY4N.2xb4B887Sj.YtZ4aoIiPitZs_116_9gODD6K3B.HeNIJwet8fAod7zxPl ary0eCGQJM1yFO9JBOzKPPaVaXiotcMcsiDUUOX41H4Q9.mPXF4927vofbXR_n7RJfLgKyI2d.np c39BwaKjKCtfVls6jB3ED6ily7vRJ0rpGYE.MHx7wbQ_k_mufIkE.lwfT8p.JbjG8.37IVD85xKE wWrj2Ts8U_cQRRF3HR5TBNf_hEIyiCRr6TsjfpP8kILs.D.aU2Z6fVbp5MVnO0KStI92aITFuIXX BXjaZKU_awuOa0XoQ7DJ0smANZ7fV5M3eRfFR2VaFwhCtgVxxmJfrTItaHcMxloNmPuXez3YMKi5 DkTy65OJkE_EwDpMjZsBGS9gHTbaF3Flb_.lM90LI8YE.1VU6kFX0rhxN.gKoWmrvRmbLaE6Umw9 I6RzWIeeIEfL.n.UGIvBUq5TAaf2fMPeWM31QIyjoq8HpI.Ylp1YbrvsMfOlRw62aCf92rp6SGWy 9zcAZCOfAzXsrNbI67R42wkBAhQ2pQDI1OtuCE0g2GNupL6yZI8UPAtaezWZa61PAQZjR_fGaASi D.zkyzHTy5B6oTN_uZUTLmngKnSpIVV02RAgfGs.ThBMC_f6hK59o9qGZrnh_KhZfqGS2BesoBdH kC9.4lb_vebK.7kxKSaeDMphVm.k91NPlpc6jKKEq1L1XLghR4BzbzgT9LWObPVQ_6YBr45t6eKl A2FRmUQWRzCTwlx1lkxU3wFvpphvsnyJfgWcHJv213K6HGhxv1Ez.vh_3Dtb1WXYSU2jURWLGlut UIMtAqZ7zt0HdT_4GetsD_ZtO3LAWSPAt Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic313.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:42:44 +0000 Received: by smtp401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ce1ede42491486dc64ccc82669c2b332; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:42:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.40.2.2.4\)) Subject: Re: exFAT is no longer encumbered Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:42:39 -0800 To: Russell Haley , FreeBSD ports X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.40.2.2.4) References: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47mrWW1yM1z4Wrb X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.01 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.57)[-0.573,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.934,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[83.65.137.98.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.60), ipnet: 98.137.64.0/21(0.89), asn: 36647(0.71), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:42:48 -0000 On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:41 AM Carmel NY = wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:51:41 -0700, Adam Weinberger stated: > > . . . > > = https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licen= sing.aspx > > >suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before, > > >and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel = module > > >that they submitted. > > > > > >The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in > > >commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to > > >relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL. > > > > > ># Adam > > > > I imagine that someone could actually inquire. It would cost nothing > > and end this FUD that is surrounding this subject. > > > > http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing > > > On my phone the site displays a "Contoso, Ltd." title (That's = Microsoft's > pretend company for all it's examples). The IP Address resolves to a > seemingly non-Microsoft server: waws-prod-bay-059.cloudapp.net > [23.99.91.55]. To boot, there is no corporate branding or other links = back > to the Microsoft site. Forgive me, but it seems like a terrible idea = to > submit information to that site. It seems poor form on Microsoft's part in several respects, but the page at: = https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/iplicensing/def= ault.aspx has a link for "process of obtaining a license". Guess where it goes: http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing The earlier "Contact a licensing executive" link on the page also goes there. Both of those are under the "Learn More about Patent Licensing" section of the page. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)