From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 12:27:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C251065670; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B9C8FC18; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q52CR0tv022308; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 06:27:03 -0600 From: Erich To: David Chisnall Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:26:59 +0700 Message-ID: <3545600.mX08jxxXTu@x220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <3017575.RIUM0zXKy0@x220.ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:27:06 -0000 Hi, On 02 June 2012 PM 12:50:16 David Chisnall wrote: > On 2 Jun 2012, at 12:19, Erich wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On 02 June 2012 PM 12:04:26 David Chisnall wrote: > >> On 2 Jun 2012, at 12:01, Erich wrote: > >> > >>> I would even accept to get the 'release' ports tree without security fixes just to have a system which is up and running fast after I tried an upgrade like what is happening at the moment with PNG dependent ports. > >> > >> You have this already. Just install the ports tree snapshot from the release... > > > > I know. I just what I would like to get is a direct method also people who are just basic users can use it without many problems. > > Run sysinstall, point it at the release CD / DVD, say 'install ports tree'... how old will the last tree then be? All I want to suggest that this can be downloaded directly via the Internet. > > Encouraging basic users to run insecure versions of applications, however, is something that I would strongly object to. > What will a new user do when faced with this situation? Just go back to what ever system was installed before and keep the fingers off FreeBSD as it seemed too difficult to find a solution for a small problem. It is like selling sharp knifes. There will be always the risk that people will get killed by the knife. But there are still sharp knifes available in shops. Erich