From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 01:03:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028F2106566C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 01:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7275C8FC08 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 01:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1681523fxm.43 for ; Fri, 08 May 2009 18:03:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YR97n+EgU/9aNiCjgR8MCUkLHkf2qzPyPeeurNzizlE=; b=jE0kooe812/kF6xWYGxjFK519MVUYk6wTgzDYys+FXBbmE/G6kMjzXRSxxzN4khmHh 3oIWjXGXGds6yBLaNC+hJqterep/qTf+OrmQiLcUpuSOnkrs5ulQUulAU7TcRceeEJqa qkrYcO+unn43k7WvO961QCKqw/oun/F2DFnNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=npXOY9/Bcln2IjnFfX6owQvBGkeWB5sbSZ4VvJ0ztWIdpYjvORj+l6VErfWXs9UH/m jySYNaZcxrCjwWZ5svMdCslDKIzCaoLd0nSpXnrcVSKZagBMiWng1paG+mWR/4+gFVQW c+Te4zv34MGIn6ko5iqEAbE3fYRnugzWLar9w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.120.3 with SMTP id b3mr4156804bkr.58.1241831012642; Fri, 08 May 2009 18:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:03:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: freebsd-current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Installation of FreeBSD 8.0-Current-2009-amd64-dvd X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 01:03:35 -0000 Dear All , A few days ago I have downloaded and installed 8.-Current-2009-05-amd64-dvd on an Intel DG965WHMKR main board with 2 GB RAM and 250 GB SATA II hard disk , PS/2 mouse and key board . Installation has been completed successfully and the PC booted well . (1) I tried to use X but X was completely missing . (2) Trying to add X with pkg_add did not worked because it could not find it in FreeBSD repositories . (3) I did not understand what can I do with that release sufficiently well , because I could not find a ReadMe about What to Do with this snapshot ( Perhaps there is one within installed OS but there is no any reminder about it with respect to my knowledge ( I could not check it now because I have installed another OS on its hard disk . ) . My ideas are following : (i) A ReadMe file set like supplied by releases would be very useful . Assume that these will be drafts of the release 8.0 . People will be able to work and make comments on them . A ReadMe about how to use and test the snapshot and supply feedback about its usage ( I think general bug reports are not very suitable for current development activities ) . (ii) Up to now I did not see any test program which can be applied by the installers and then send results back to FreeBSD release and current developers . Such a program would test an overall structure of the installed components and would sent a report to FreeBSD current developers . (iii) Some Linux distributions are collecting computer profile data for successful installations , for example , Fedora is collecting profile information and summaries are published in www.smolts.org . FreeBSD installations may include a similarly profile collection step . I do not know the relationship between www.bsdstats.org and www.freebsd.org, but a detailed hardware profile list such as the following sample pages would be very useful : http://hcl.mandriva.com/ http://en.opensuse.org/Hardware http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Hardware_Compatibility_List http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/ http://www.turbolinux.com/products/compatibility/index.html https://hardware.redhat.com/ http://www.smolts.org/ http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/ How to Certify hardware : http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/ Submit Hardware to the Solaris HCL : http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/submittal/submit.jsp http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/default.mspx Some others : http://www.networkupstools.org/compat/stable.html ( UPS ) http://hcl.xensource.com/ ( Xen Server ) http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HardwareCompatibilityList (iv) A structured form in a page in FreeBSD web site to collect information about failed installations and their hardware profiles ( because failed installation can not send any profile mail ) . (v) Handbook is only showing last active releases , the others are replaced by latest release related handbook . For users it is no more possible to access removed handbooks . It is possible to use a structure like following : ... Handbook 6.4 ... Handbook 7.0 Handbook 7.1 Handbook 7.2 ... Handbook 8.0 During current development phase it is possible also to get proposals about current Handbook and it may be possible to synchronize it with current OS . In that way , it becomes possible to ( NOT to revise release Handbook for the active releases ) . Each Handbook develops in its own course . Previous Handbooks will not be lost due to new releases . Current Handbook will be initialized by copying a previous Handbook and then will be modified with respect to developed current . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk