Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:59:43 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> To: Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com> Cc: docs@FreeBSD.org, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: New website rendering problem Message-ID: <20051006022943.GW45811@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <43448A2E.3030706@centtech.com> References: <1128561588.62455.13.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20051006015217.GM45811@wantadilla.lemis.com> <434483D2.3050801@centtech.com> <20051006020330.GQ45811@wantadilla.lemis.com> <43448A2E.3030706@centtech.com>
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--eGyD7iWN192kf2IJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 5 October 2005 at 21:21:34 -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Wednesday, 5 October 2005 at 20:54:26 -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: >>> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, 5 October 2005 at 21:19:48 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >>>> >>>>> Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q27. I'm >>>>> using <tt> and <pre> tags to display pre-formatted text. However, it >>>>> comes out looking quite awful in the new layout. >>>> >>>> Well, it would help to understand what you're seeing. I see >>>> fixed-width text that's about 50% too large. Selecting normal or >>>> large text size makes no difference. But, unlike the home page, at >>>> least it renders "correctly", without overlapping fields and texts >>>> that overflow their boxes. >>>> >>>>> What should I be using instead? >>>> >>>> IE? It looks as good as could be expected there, though even then it >>>> overflows the box a little bit. >>> >>> Funny - it looks perfect for me on my FreeBSD 7 box with Mozilla. >> >> You're probably running at a lower resolution. > > Maybe - I'm running at 1920x1200 on my 17" LCD. I'm surprised it renders well at that resolution. But maybe you've made your fonts very small. > What is yours at? 2048x1536. >>> Maybe you should snap a screen shot and post a link.. >> >> I did a while back, when this was being discussed. Anyway, take a >> look at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Thumbnails-20051006.html, which >> shows the two pages at 10% size. Click on the images for 25% size, >> and click on *those* images for full size. > > Oh my goodness - those are horrid. It looks like your fonts (in > firefox) set larger - does it look better after hitting CTRL-- ? No, because that's the minimum font size, 18 pixels. On this display (135 dpi), that's just under 10 pt. I tried with 16 pixel (9 pt), and the layout got better (though the security advisories still overflow), but it's hard to read. I appreciate that HTML is a terrible tool for getting layouts right, but I think that in this case it would help to leave a little more space. It'll be a while before 300 dpi displays come into general use (hampered by HTML rendering issues, mainly). Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --eGyD7iWN192kf2IJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDRIwXIubykFB6QiMRAsT1AJ9LB9L6alv39aNlh6fqdjTDPSDBmwCdGc0U /h7tlF4SQuPYE/JdG7AOVcg= =jkB+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eGyD7iWN192kf2IJ--
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