From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Oct 13 14:21:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (sub24-23.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FE737B66C; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1CCF2328F; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:45:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BC8328E; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:45:06 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:45:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Rick Hamell To: That Guy Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -newbies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > itself more toward the newer users. I really don't understand how the > mission of this listserv could possibly aim towards regular conversation of > newbies. If anything, this listserv should be a -remedial version of > -questions. Removing this listserv doesn't serve any purpose at all. At > least a refocus would do some good. It does serve a purpose. The orginal argument for NOT having -newbies and not having technical questions in it. Say you've been thrown into the position of admin. for your entire company (because you know 'computers') You inadvertantly ask a question on -newbies, get the wrong answer, and boom... your company is down, or worst yet lost lots of valuable data. I have seen at least once something similar... People who are on -questions may not have time to keep track of -newbies also. Having just one technical contact for all customers keeps everything in one place so that those who know what they're doing can help even with the seemingly 'newbie' questions. My major problem is that the questions that are being asked in newbies, are not newbie questions! Asking about setting up a pccard, or NATD, or DNS, or firewall filters are not in my mind newbie-type questions. They are intermediate or even advanced topics. Newbies was meant as a place for newbies to spout off about the latest thing they've done, or a cool feature they found, or a web site that really helped them, etc, etc... But when was the last time such a question came across? In the last year, I believe I've only seen one, maybe two posts that I think are ontopic for -newbies. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message