From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 3 17:14:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78117106564A for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.netplex.net (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373968FC08 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sea.ntplx.net (sea.ntplx.net [204.213.176.11]) by mail.netplex.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/NETPLEX) with ESMTP id pB3H1gCx040940; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:01:42 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.netplex.net) X-Greylist: Message whitelisted by DRAC access database, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.10]); Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:01:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:01:42 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen X-X-Sender: eischen@sea.ntplx.net To: Max Khon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4ED974A2.7080606@FreeBSD.org> <4ED9EA27.8090206@inse.ru> <20111203.140334.74707074.sthaug@nethelp.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, sthaug@nethelp.no Subject: Re: CVS removal from the base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Eischen List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 17:14:08 -0000 On Sat, 3 Dec 2011, Max Khon wrote: > Hello! > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 8:03 PM, wrote: > >> I use CVS (or rather csup) to keep the base system up to date. I would >> be perfectly okay with using a different utility - however, I would >> strongly prefer that this utility was included in the base system. > > CVS != csup. > > I wonder how many people will express their sentiments about CVS when > they really mean cvsup/csup. We also use CVS (not cvsup/csup) after installing a fresh system. We mirror the CVS repo on an internal machine, then use CVS to checkout the latest HEAD or -stable from the internal mirror. The checkout from the internal mirror is much faster than trying to do it over our internet link (and that doesn't always work - we may not even be connected to the internet at times). Note that no ports are needed to update a system in this scenario. Also note that I can checkout any branch or from any known good date where the system builds and works. I would love to mirror the SVN repo in the same way and have an 'svn' in base, or at least something that could replace CVS in the above scenario. -- DE