From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 17 14:23:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2E61C194C for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 14:23:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47GDq11Zm5z46q7 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 14:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E69433 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 09:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 17 Nov 2019 09:23:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=fm1; bh=NjjTTWgFbsQAmToIPQ2kGRzE0xB aZDlFN20Uvksqd38=; b=kixxlqZ/FFh7a6lbg6YUdsgy/wDafO7p68IswurKPYd q9qLS+09LarOmKbCPBHZjRHUE7zcYVbm1OsaScST4V8plAo8B33sp/T7FcQHWJfO t4wAFVmrgk5ElQZ8ChjIHxgPzyT7V4lBmzHiwsbZE2Q/fFfdnesk1NrRqTGsVbjI NBtPsM4GGpLL1G2Q7IqZ62fiiMQtsewrGAWOWOQHtGUCcl0Ouwj2MSOHKzAYmZIY JMTpX5S7GaaZymNoCBgyuz/477wF94zds7Bz4fzzbQzR2rKEbo9dbu/bra85AgD4 5OxSLG0cdNprJgr9MpCNcZzc3oEMkXr+rJyDLXNLmYw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=NjjTTW gFbsQAmToIPQ2kGRzE0xBaZDlFN20Uvksqd38=; b=N9I/biYF1xD2hgNwKiB9aT Vtm4LlKK8RCOlGjIfwXsrv9gsV5RdDmEXjwnGWNoJ0UEfFEv+8pGoPwLzR5vLJyI cCCf9hrrS8+aQZlBEjf7Alcc2fGTg2LC2nHeh577HKHiBtxVcKvgE4tsC1yqLoj0 FghKiCtjBUp9zSW7v/A17N+fnzXUmOK6Xle8ZTBWCE2N5wqdDj6SkkdX+AaK/BrE //ajhRobPmEqwnFsa8CRsv0hpBX2RcfKP0DANblTULAH8MFCjUaKhE5KUwJuDJve 23kbj8xvO6P1txrz4z3BwexqU2H6tuMQEJIBQe1mEL2Ysv8Gexe8rQpfRpRRIetw == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrudegvddgtdeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujggfsehgtd erredtredvnecuhfhrohhmpehtvggthhdqlhhishhtshcuoehtvggthhdqlhhishhtshes iiihgihsthdrnhgvtheqnecukfhppeekvddrjedtrdeluddrleelnecurfgrrhgrmhepmh grihhlfhhrohhmpehtvggthhdqlhhishhtshesiiihgihsthdrnhgvthenucevlhhushht vghrufhiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: from bastion.zyxst.net (bastion.zyxst.net [82.70.91.99]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 31CDB306005E for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 09:23:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 14:23:25 +0000 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: consequences with pkgs of freebsd-update upgrade? Message-ID: <20191117142325.GA75104@bastion.zyxst.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191116173351.GA19947@bastion.zyxst.net> <1C961C3D-06ED-4D06-AEFB-E97F795C973C@kicp.uchicago.edu> <6b12048c-6ad5-0acc-ced5-92cf9f8b92d0@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6b12048c-6ad5-0acc-ced5-92cf9f8b92d0@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47GDq11Zm5z46q7 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm1 header.b=kixxlqZ/; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=N9I/biYF; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net designates 64.147.123.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.19 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[zyxst.net:s=fm1,messagingengine.com:s=fm1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.147.123.20]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zyxst.net]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[zyxst.net:+,messagingengine.com:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[20.123.147.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.49)[ip: (-9.80), ipnet: 64.147.123.0/24(-4.91), asn: 11403(-2.68), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 14:23:59 -0000 --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Matthew, On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 09:02:50AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: >The actual requirements on your poudriere machine are: > > * Same major version as the clients you want to support > * A supported version of the OS > * Not newer than any of the clients. > >Thus a 12.0 poudriere machine can be used to maintain packages on a mix >of 12.0, 12.1 and 12-STABLE machines. However for the 11.x branch, >you'ld need to be running at lease 11.3-RELEASE in your poudriere >builder, due to recent changes in the versions supported by the ports. > >If you follow these rules you will be able to build and successfully >serve pkgs of the vast majority of the available ports. There are a few >exceptions though. These are certain loadable kernel modules, which >need to be compiled against the same kernel version as you are running >-- or at least a kernel with the same KBI version. ok I understand, the KBI needs to remain the same. The context for this is building nvidia-driver. How does one show the KBI of a running system? freebsd-version -kru doesn't show it [1]. I can obtain it from a poudriere host for its jails by running=20 poudriere jail -l Is poudriere-devel smart enough to use the PORTS_MODULES=3Dx11/nvidia-driver statement if I define this in the src.conf for that particular build jail? thanks, [1] I understand KBI to look like this: 1201000 - is this correct? --=20 J. --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAl3RV+YACgkQs8o7QhFz NAVdUQ/9EjYN+TYocXJ1dcdFHYbTSPwt61mb7AdyyLon6J5xT2lb+jZV8frjHGW/ lky4J5TRZIKPZwQ4Up+VlHTBxzOtetH96/pCHSenVfhrzRDkzEvZ85QISRwowO0j +CzhkTSzz3Ad4pCg0WSiToik0ma8QUVhvVtUWCkYYgFxNQL2PDWYhVNZ0fj28/4n Qjkx2Nc1ul01bSc2ZfENlR1O6ZgGN2lX8CNTbvaikT8adqRepu65DWfW0zAO+vzf s5xULDDpr9LqZgfLoSIE0gzF+FcH7mEP+U7MPIEtoWsWak+wx6dPjEAeUpFIWMBo o+i/00DPIB+HFemeRDuJno18rrWBHhpg383CtWezfP7ctxCJX5bbOJg+a1gVJ7Ii rkkB8NCfDhR/wS6H+vb4A9sTMxX/tH7EQhNuaikg29L5RBmjTwxSUh9CfJgHy9hb Q0giRqMtFbhf0dKEhL3Rv23Hgxof9IcqWFonZ0koF2nNe/AMLIksDk1xvwglX16t Kgcu3KNzoNMR7LzzcwCJSA6SJRJEds/m+ZECVKsAESHBhzQslYVOuJoeSeQjMLNr ToLN1sajo5FSOjhC4rwP2acqzhyqXM7C8/Q0jrauWM0i0nkr+UeLAPeOAAQUTj7/ bqv/a5JXHkmc7yn5xVotcCX8NFnkYHr7SVdrsgsvAfq6Cat9Ruo= =bZ83 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM--