Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:14:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist <lamont@scriptkiddie.org> To: Sung Nae Cho <sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu> Cc: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD more secure than Windows NT or Windows 2000? Message-ID: <20010721160436.K76974-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107211838110.7739-100000@quasar.phys.vt.edu>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
yeah, okay, too much caffeine, too little sleep, too little food... sorry... for future reference, though, you should probably tone it down a bit when you're asking about O/S comparisons that are likely to produce kneejerk responses. comparing Microsquish and FreeBSD security is probably one of those topics. also to try to add a bit of information to this reply, I believe there's a utility which someone sells for a few hundred bucks which will let you boot from floppies and reset the local admin password on a Win2K box. for WinNT there are freeware utilities out there which will let you do this. for both of them there are freeware utilities which will let you boot from a floppy and read the NTFS partition (particularly to get/edit the NT equivalent of the password file). and of course there's also l0phtcrack... On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Sung Nae Cho wrote: > Huh? > > I didn't think my previous message was offensive to anyone, no? Maybe > people ought to learn to read the messages with complete attention before > start throwing flames at each other! Or even consider reading the > follow ups..... > > > Sung N. Cho > > > > > > On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Lamont Granquist wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Sung Nae Cho wrote: > > > Simply reinstalling Windows NT will not let you read someone else's > > > file. > > > > yeah, so just rip the drive out, stick it into a FBSD box and mount it > > using NTFS. > > > > the "security" feature of NT where it tries to make sure that you have a > > login on the box to be able to do anything is really, really annoying. I > > managed to lock myself out of my laptop (switched from domain to workgroup > > and lost my cached domain credentials) and didn't have a local admin > > password and couldn't fucking change the password. It was, of course, > > more than trivial to dual boot into FBSD and mount the partition under > > NTFS and get at all my files. But there's no tools out there to hack the > > new active directory passwords and the tools for hacking the old SAM files > > didn't work on W2K. So, the reportcard on W2K security in this way is > > that it gets a big F- on security *and* gets a big F- on administrative > > utility. FreeBSD at least acknowledges that you don't have any security > > when you're on the console and lets you do administrative tasks with the > > proper incantations. > > > > and this isn't appropriate for freebsd-stable. take your trolling > > elsewhere please. > > > > > Now I think that's being secure all the way. > > > > you have no clue about security, go away. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20010721160436.K76974-100000>