From nobody Tue Mar 10 09:39:12 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4fVTNp0lQFz6VGPP; Tue, 10 Mar 2026 09:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (udns.ultimatedns.net [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "R12" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fVTNn4ygTz3p0m; Tue, 10 Mar 2026 09:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 62A9dDeW060862; Tue, 10 Mar 2026 02:39:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=bsdforge.com; s=bsdforge; t=1773135559; x=1773136159; r=y; bh=9n3k2mZgAJV4694VMlym0FSz08xAyPMGkcJPNBgFao0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=pElrvaMBuxJBI2rOW7KeUD0gVISroOwF9Jctcl/L+qNFujE6kB6GptXwRSN/Mv8zG /MJ6Oztaf+AxCb8Ufs3GXUas4ZbiDZLnOfN8dcdq9xP8UnH3+OmSz1xfQYlRUV7CCi 6t0m3kcXy18bhuq3qgd3QkfTHoFfDzYKR2OCdg2uyAQix/8HoMV2iwNwklNBII5TwB /tOSn9hpAErk8F5vBqylOzutTAeVXj1ZYUQgVnExgR/zSVlua26yyXovqx4MoZszBO vO9AvQGhsxS877Y6fmQwNSh26hy2aCfMNIzFd5rufkIwFhXfMxNVrtCHFYl/WwJHGS TtPzLYTO102kA== List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2026 02:39:12 -0700 From: Chris To: Michael Schuster Cc: vermaden , Warner Losh , Vincent Bentley , freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org, "freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Practical suggestions for resolving the Age Verification problem In-Reply-To: References: <08dc619e-955a-438d-86ba-751b1fa63bce@vincentbentley.co.uk> User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: <17977bb140d10505168a9af142dc09c8@bsdforge.com> X-Sender: bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_b3c3a91b42bdb7a3db8d9d417b3a5cde" X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4fVTNn4ygTz3p0m X-Spamd-Bar: ---- --=_b3c3a91b42bdb7a3db8d9d417b3a5cde Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 2026-03-10 00:44, Michael Schuster wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 11:13 PM Chris wrote: > >> On 2026-03-09 10:39, vermaden wrote: >> > Lucas Holt from MidnightBSD just created aged(8) here: >> > - https://github.com/MidnightBSD/src/tree/master/usr.sbin/aged >> >> While I think the initiative as written is untenable (unenforceable) >> Wouldn't it be enough to write an additional field to adduser(8) >> say; born / over 13? Then allow ports to use it as they so choose? >> It's a dead simple approach w/ near zero work/overhead. >> > > Speaking as a "naive" user and developer: > Where would you want to store that information? the GECOS field is known > nearly universally, you can't just change it, it'd break ... lots ot stuff. > > Besides: storing people's age in a publicly visible place probably wouldn't > fly with many people, esp in the EU. I was thinking more on the lines of permissions of different users in the same way their regulated already. Adding another category and applying appropriate perms to match. It basically changes nothing in the way a system regulates user categories now. I was simply suggesting adding another (age based) category. Perms can be set accordingly. Seemed like an painless possibility. 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