From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 14:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EB937B401 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (gaff.hhhr.ision.net [195.180.9.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CFF43F75 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaff.hhhr.ision.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FLbmfD022061 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:37:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net) Received: from localhost (ohoyer@localhost)h6FLbls5022058; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:37:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:37:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Olaf Hoyer To: Kevin Berrien In-Reply-To: <3F146935.2080906@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20030715232328.E21995-100000@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP or Compaq servers. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:37:45 -0000 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Kevin Berrien wrote: > The real key is, getting BSD popular/requested enough that it's > tested/supported officially by HP et. al! > > >>>That would be good to have a webpage with server configurations that run > >>>under FreeBSD. Don't you think so? > >>> > >>> Hi! Well, I was at Linuxtag in Germany the last few days, and also spoke to HP and Seagate Staff. HP :well, only sales guys there told me, as I asked for further info on RAID management tools that are currently developed for Linux, that perhaps the Linux driver guy has some more information whom to contact with HP... Seagate: The channel sales guy told some interesting stories about how you have to deal with the distributor to get your drives sold, and how development and testing works. He liked the idea to give some decent harddrives away to developers for testing for standard compiance etc, because he said, that this is way cheaper than some advertisements, but Seagate USA has the thumb on it, and testing is only done officially with some choosen labs etc. And as long as the people wearing big ties don't think different, it won't change... The other point: I think its well worth the idea, that we simply extend the hardware notes page on the installation infos page with a list of known working systems from certain vendors. example: Vendor and type, Single/Dual CPU FreeBSD Version short Hardware list, notes so: Compaq DL360, 1CPU, FreeBSD 4.7R 933MHz, first Generation (white box), Intel 82559NIC (dual), SmartRAID SCSI Adapter (dev/ida) or: Compaq DL360 G2, 1CPU, FreeBSD 4.7R 1,4GHz PIII, grey box, Broadcom NIC (bge), SmartRAID (dev/ciss) there shall be only systems from vendors that build systems like above, with defined hardware. (Yes I know, that Compaq especially on cheaper systems put anything in, what could be obtained for cheap price...) Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese)