From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 21 15:01:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FA516A47C; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27A143D46; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:01:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C77846BF6; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:01:02 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: gnn@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060621155727.E8526@fledge.watson.org> References: <20060619115827.A25435@wonkity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creation of a new list for Embedded.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:01:04 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, gnn@freebsd.org wrote: > At Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:10:44 -0600 (MDT), > Warren Block wrote: >> So will freebsd-small go away? Both lists share the description of >> "Dedicated and embedded systems based on FreeBSD". > > When I initially talked to people about this the thought was that the list > would be moved, but that was considered too intrusive, and the idea was > dropped. > > For my own part I am now using exclusively embedded, and will drop my small > membership in a week or so. If people "vote with their feet" and the > traffic on small drops to 0 then we can make some choices about it, but that > is not important right now. I, for one, would still prefer to see the existing subscriptions move over :-). I often subscribe to lists and then poll the mailbox every now and then to see if there are topics of interest. Little annoys me more than coming back from a vacation and discovering that I have, in effect, been dropped from the mailing list becaue the subscriber base hasn't been moved to a replacement list. This happened to me recently on the Linux security modules mailing list -- they also offer no archive of the messages since the move, so I can't easily find out what they talked about over the last two months :-(. If we believe embedded@ is really replacing small@, my feeling is we should add all current subscribers to the new list, alias the old list to the new list, and remove subscribers + disable subscriptions to the old list. The old small@ archives will remain around, and pointed to for the purposes of access to old archives, but I think having two lists is confusing. Or, at least, I'm confused. :-) Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge