From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 4 23:03:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8BE37B401; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 23:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mooseriver.com (adsl-68-73-92-121.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net [68.73.92.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B192A43FEA; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 23:03:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: by mooseriver.com (Postfix, from userid 200) id EA97F1D9; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 01:03:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 01:03:29 -0500 From: Josef Grosch To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Message-ID: <20030705060329.GB41578@mooseriver.com> References: <20030705033105.GD366@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030705034557.85069.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> <20030705040337.GL366@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030705040337.GL366@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: "Pedro F. Giffuni" cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where's FreeBSD 1.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 06:03:34 -0000 On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:33:37PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > > Quoting broken. > > On Saturday, 5 July 2003 at 5:45:56 +0200, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > --- Greg 'groggy' Lehey ha scritto: > > On Monday, 30 June 2003 at 12:45:44 -0700, Doug White wrote: > >>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Jeremy Faulkner wrote: > >>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 06:28:15AM +0200, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > >>>>> Hi; > >>>>> > >>>>> I was looking at the "ancient" UNIX code and there are some good > >>>>> things there... Is there a FreeBSD 1.x repository somewhere? > >>>> > >>>> http://www.gldis.ca/~gldisater/oldnix/1.1.5.1-RELEASE.tgz > >>> > >>> Just remember that this code was supposed to be destroyed after > >>> the USL lawsuit, so I wouldn't use it for anything you care about. > >> > >> Since the release of "Ancient UNIX" under the BSD license, there's > >> nothing to worry about. > > > > No need to ask a lawyer or anything? > > Not if you believe Caldera's release last year. See > http://www.lemis.com/grog/UNIX/ for details. Unfortunately, they > didn't give us a hardcopy of the release, but so far nobody believes > it to be a fake. Caldera and the The Unix Heritage Society worked out a deal where the 32V license and everything covered by it was made available to hobbyists. I am almost positive that this deal was worked out several years ago. Kirk McKusick was/is selling a 4 CD set of the source code for $100.00. I've got one of these packed away in a closet somewhere. Here are a few URL http://www.mckusick.com/csrg/index.html http://www.tuhs.org/ It's interesting to note that this set contains the complete source code to 4.3tahoe, 4.3reno, 4.4, 4.4BSD-Lite1, net.1, net.2, and 4.4BSD-Lite2 A clever person with a bit of perl could figure out what the 7 tainted files are. > > > Wouldn't the fact that those files exist mean that someone was > > breaking the law at a certain moment?? > > Well, it's not a law. It was a civil action. But any such moment is > now long gone. > > > Since I knew FreeBSD only when 2.0.5 Release was made, I have no > > idea about the details.. did freeBSD developers use something like > > CVS, perhaps SCCS ? It would be nice to have this old history > > available.. for hobbyist value. > > I'm pretty sure it was CVS in those days. I have sources, but no CVS > tree. Does anybody else? I am almost positive there was a CVS tree in those days. I remember learning how to use CVS back then and using some ones email instructions, Terry Lambert?, on how to use CVS. I also remember Jordan making a comment at a BAFUG meeting about sucking the CVS tree across a modem when he was still living in Ireland. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 5.1 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | www.bafug.org