From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 7 23:15:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8F616A4CE for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:15:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D91043D39 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:15:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j37NEFZE086396; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:14:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:14:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20050407.171415.74666363.imp@bsdimp.com> To: phk@phk.freebsd.dk, current@freebsd.org From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20050407224618.GA96655@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20331.1112908380@critter.freebsd.dk> <440f480855b36bcc43281835e1e3781d@xcllnt.net> <20050407224618.GA96655@nagual.pp.ru> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: GEOM architecture and the (lack of) need for foot-shooting X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:15:07 -0000 The tools we have suck in many ways. No one disputes that. Rather than flame people, I'm going to work within the GEOM framework to see if the glaring deficiencies in the kernel/userland APIs can be corrected. If I come up with anything I'll let people know. Warner