From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Mar 24 9:43:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from proxy.centtech.com (moat.centtech.com [206.196.95.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601F937B404 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sprint.centtech.com (sprint.centtech.com [10.177.173.31]) by proxy.centtech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2OHhPK22230; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:43:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from centtech.com (andersonpc [192.168.42.18]) by sprint.centtech.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12481; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:43:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3C9E11B7.F36170B8@centtech.com> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:49:43 -0600 From: Eric Anderson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chip Morton Cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: [burnscharlesn@hotmail.com: Advocacy help for CS professor] References: <20020322013138.A87120@xor.obsecurity.org> <20020322013138.A87120@xor.obsecurity.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020324105234.0199cda8@threespace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chip Morton wrote: > I disagree with this one. I would pay cash to have Internet Explorer on > FreeBSD. It would probably cut down significantly on my Windows use. > > My experience is that IE renders pages faster than any other browser I've > used recently (except Lynx) and I never find myself wondering if a page > will display correctly. It handles with ease all the "standards-compliant" > pages that I've seen. Mozilla, on the other hand, seems to gobble up as > much RAM as you have before it goes for your swap space. Konqueror is > sweet, but it still doesn't display *all* the pages I visit the way they > were meant to be seen. > I think the problem is that when MS created IE, they intentionally made it NOT follow all the standards, and then made software that created web pages that also didn't follow the standards (but broke the rules the MS way). Netscape didn't follow those broken rules, and since a huge population of web designers are Windows addicts, they used Windows tools, which used the easily implementable IE libraries and made broken html, Netscape appeared to be the one that was "broken". There are numerous sites that work fine in IE but do not work in Netscape or Opera, or any other browser I could find. Rendering pages faster? Sure, probably because they render / correct as the page downloads, and Netscape doesn't, but I agree with you here. Netscape, IE, Mozilla, all suck. If there was a browser out there that did everything IE/Netscape do (including the GUI email client), I'd pay for it hands down. Opera is close, but no cigar. Eric > > Of course, I realize that a person's assessment of a web browser is only as > good as the pages he tends to visit, so opinions are sure to vary here. > > << Chip Morton >> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message