From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 6 18:39:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B98D16A417 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 18:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958E213C4B8 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 18:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.samsco.home (phobos.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lA6Ibjlk063950; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:37:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <4730B477.3050105@samsco.org> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:37:43 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070802 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <472EB211.7050001@delphij.net> <472EEADF.1000008@gmail.com> <472F466E.8050405@delphij.net> <472F5846.1020304@gmail.com> <472F5D9A.9050900@delphij.net> <472FCC15.9040903@gmail.com> <472FD0FB.9090608@delphij.net> <473001E7.2090201@yandex.ru> <473017DF.7070105@gmail.com> <62151.71.164.232.42.1194356793.squirrel@mail.ringofsaturn.com> <20071106144749.GA91218@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <47525.209.159.98.1.1194362930.squirrel@mail.ringofsaturn.com> <47308AFB.9090000@conducive.net> <47308D33.2080700@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47308D33.2080700@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]); Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:37:45 -0700 (MST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: =?windows-1252?Q?=3F=3F=3F_Bill_Hacker?= , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Wiki for discussing P35/IHC9(R)/SATA issues set up X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:39:05 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >> BTW - in a recent test of 2.5" high-capacity HDD, it was noted that >> SATA required significantly more power than PATA. Well 'significant' >> to a laptop on battery, anyway. > > Perhaps I am just very unlike the typical user but why on earth have > unix on a laptop (or even have a laptop for that matter ;-)) >> Easier to maintain data integrity comes to mind as well as power budget. > > On any mobo that can support SATA/300 one would think the bus/cpu could > keep pace so wheres the issue? Disk platter speed and density are the primary forces in actual interface speed. The fastest SATA disks I've seen so far do around 95MB/s, well lower than the 150MB/s that SATA150 can give. The advantage to SATA300 (and SATA600 when/if it comes out) are: 1. faster cache speed for burst transfers 2. better scaling for port multipliers (but most just use SAS for this anyways) 3. more profits for drive makers who convince you that faster is inherently better. Scott