From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 6 21:52:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B5F106566C for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B088FC17 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57993CD86; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:52:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n76LqajJ001525; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:52:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:52:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jonathan McKeown Message-Id: <20090806235236.75d43aee.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200908060956.59358.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <4A76FB32.9050601@videotron.ca> <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> <200908060956.59358.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:52:45 -0000 On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:56:59 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > PC-BSD is FreeBSD, pre-packaged with a usable desktop and its own simplified > package manager. If you're talking about PBI, that's what the "average user" expects: You open a web browser (d'oh), search for what you think will be the software you need (plus-d'oh) and download it (doubleplus-d'oh). As long as you use PBI only, there's no interference with ports or packages, but you are not encouraged to use a "mix", allthough it's mostly possible. Don't get me wrong: I have several friends who use PC-BSD for years happily now, but it's definitely not my cup of tea for several reasons. PC-BSD does probide a KDE-based preconfigured environment and lots of preinstalled software. It's completely sufficient for the "average user", allthough not for the "average user in Germany", because KDE's internationalisation is not so good (Gnome's is better, as far as I've seen), and not all PBI packages do conform to the language setting (e. g. install in German, install kmplayer, it will be in English, and error messages will be in English, too, that scares the average German user away). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...