From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 13:21:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CA516A420 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:21:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chandanh@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE2243D49 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:21:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chandanh@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so1492595nzd for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 05:21:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=El5E1INSvgYXhgJFKryDMbojSfbO0AYVgIZHi/PEzVV+vnTijtbxIwGlh7pObzItQsjDpSlgH3o2tMfBAzW5UxiL772sMLcD/LkEujCaUfe4Vhrl+oCgsCK5mrrn99IDQcPB9BJ5z7A2aEZJk2fnLhzNtndj5zG7xSaGnDBb2CY= Received: by 10.36.56.19 with SMTP id e19mr856724nza; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 05:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [59.144.34.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i5sm5473842nzi.2006.02.22.05.21.53; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 05:21:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43FC66DD.1080408@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:57:57 +0530 From: Chandan Haldar Organization: TISRA User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43F96644.3070306@gmail.com> <43F99F17.1040407@gmail.com> <43FA1C37.1070607@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <43FA1C37.1070607@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ports/packages confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:21:56 -0000 Continuing to wallow in my pool of port upgrade sorrows, I'm confused on a few basic aspects of ports/packages maintenance. Looked around, but couldn't find much clarity (may be haven't found the right docs yet). Will someone please point me to an explanation for why the packages in my install sets (that I chose at the time of installation of my FreeBSD 6.0 Release), for example the X11R6 packages, do not show up in the installed packages list (pkg_info or pkg_version)? What will happen to the installed Xorg set if I try to upgrade to a newer Xorg rel through the ports/packages system? May be this would explain to me how (while trying to upgrade my installed ports including gnome 2.10->2,12 upgrade) I managed to mess up my working gnome 2.10 installation (done from the ISO disk images at FreeBSD install time) so badly that I'm finding it impossible to recover from that. The mysteries of pkgdb -F also needs way more effort than I have been able to give so far. It shows stale dependnecies right after portsnap fetch/extract even before pkg_info shows any packages installed. Why?! Where can I read a precise definition of 'stale dependency' as understood by the ports management programs? At the moment, portupgrade, portmanager, gnome_upgrade.sh (yes, I finally found that one too), nothing seems to be able to get gnome back up without throwing me right back into pkgdb -F with a whole bundle of stale dependencies that I do not know how to resolve manually staring at me. Is reinstalling FreeBSD + X + gnome + other packages from the Nov 2005 released ISO disk images my best bet to get back to a working system like I had before I attempted to upgrade my ports to the latest versions? I have not been hacking unix for several years recently, but was not exactly a complete newbie once upon a time. Thanks for any explanation or pointer. Chandan