From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 18 2:38:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B4F37B404; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 02:38:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA2F43ED8; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 02:38:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by mail.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B9D55; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:35:43 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 78CAE2FDE08; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:38:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:38:29 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Adam Weinberger Cc: Derrick Ryalls , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Going from Windows to X - suggestions Message-ID: <20021218103829.GC45336@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Adam Weinberger , Derrick Ryalls , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <007c01c2a637$90c002b0$0200a8c0@bartxp> <20021218021835.GB311@vectors.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021218021835.GB311@vectors.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # adamw@FreeBSD.ORG / 2002-12-17 18:18:35 -0800: > >> (12.17.2002 @ 1748 PST): Derrick Ryalls said, in 0.8K: << > > I have been using FreeBSD as a server via console for a while now, but I > > wanted to see what the GUI was like. My only spare machine right now is > > a P-300 w/ about 16meg ram, so I won't be screaming along, but I wanted > > to start the process anyway. I was looking through the ports, and I see > > a ton of options. > > > > What I am looking for is something simple to start with. I figure a > > file manager of some sort, a web browser, and text editor for doing > > development work if I ever get to that point. > > > > I know I am being really vague, but there are so many options, I wanted > > to hear some recommendations. Right now, I am thinking about going with > > KDE3 as I have heard the name before. > >> end of "Going from Windows to X - suggestions" from Derrick Ryalls << > > Install KDE and/or gnome. Your call. > > kde3: > cd /usr/ports/x11/kde3; make install clean > > gnome2: > cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2; make install clean > cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2-fifth-toe; make install clean erm, KDE or Gnome in 16MB RAM? ahem... Derrick, you'll want something lighter. KDE or Gnome is not really needed: I survived the switch straight from W2k to AfterStep (which I quickly left behind, but that's another story), and if such a lamer I am hasn't dropped dead neither will you. you have one fundamental problem: you won't want to build ports on that slow box, but packages are often compiled with the kitchen sink option turned on, which makes them somewhat bigger and slower. My recommendations: window manager: OpenBox. Light, fast, supports the NETWM hints. terminal: rxvt. not as fancy as xterm, but half the size. web browser: w3m. IMO the best text only browser. text editor: vim. this may be pretty hard for a beginner, but the help is really extensive, and you can practise in windows! -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message