From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 24 11:46:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0110516A4CE; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from TRANG.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D665243D2D; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:46:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by TRANG.nuxi.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2OJk395008826; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:46:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i2OJk1ZJ008825; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:46:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:46:00 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Daniel Eischen Message-ID: <20040324194600.GA8779@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Daniel Eischen , Scott Long , Marcel Moolenaar , Julian Elischer , FreeBSD current users References: <20040323140429.L55727@pooker.samsco.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: FreeBSD current users cc: Julian Elischer cc: Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: SF Bay area hackfest X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:46:06 -0000 On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 04:49:51PM -0500, Daniel Eischen wrote: > I don't quite understand why you need commitments for a toolchain > upgrade. From what I understand, TLS support can't happen without > it, and by deferring the toolchain update you prevent it from > getting done. But I'll play along regardless... SMPng and KSE are both projects that haven't been completed because the project only had commitments for the 1st part of the work. I refused to pushed to import new toolchain bits for the to sit dormant not being used. I'd rather use my time working on another part of FreeBSD if the net of my time & effort is a NOP.