From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 04:55:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF1716A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 04:55:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFC043D48 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 04:55:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (ufeqgt@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5C4tp7V091533; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:55:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j5C4toPt091532; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:55:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:55:50 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Steve Kargl Message-ID: <20050612045550.GG742@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Steve Kargl , Richard Coleman , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org References: <53d4293a37f280317d52338c2fc6fc6d@FreeBSD.org> <20050612025402.GD67746@dragon.NUXI.org> <42ABAE43.1000704@criticalmagic.com> <20050612040224.GA6790@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050612040224.GA6790@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p1 i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: Richard Coleman , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Death to toor X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 04:55:54 -0000 Steve Kargl wrote this message on Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 21:02 -0700: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:38:43PM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote: > > As to the status of toor, I say remove it. Anyone that wants to keep it > > can skip that mergemaster step. > > > > BSD has historically had a toor account. A person who installs > FreeBSD from a CD created after toor removal will not have a > toor account. How does mergemaster restore a historical > toor account? Which is useless unless someone sets a password for it, or installs a port like sudo that lets you to switch to it... For me, I always change root's shell to /bin/sh, so I could care less about toor... and since less is usually better, my vote is to drop it.. It's easy enough to add it back.. Time marches on.. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."