From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 5 02:18:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92D8F674 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 02:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-f53.google.com (mail-pb0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B1A11C5D for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 02:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id md12so9178374pbc.26 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 18:18:06 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JRvSaf+2MRnPHEZmZSsYo5om3FTCzzYoloobbzeARn0=; b=P1tHVzBER0o3xpFKA6BtIbyjAd58BkohWbvCzrSCItqkhFfp4cCFqoe00oBuP14zJv wXZaffNJXa0h6k6kM9iLyzvLvS1WZ8SpB4wSb1F/hT9v5+gtkq74h/FmQklzMA6fHmoZ kcD3g1cjwW2q0qzGD+muxcgmfy7ORLeBjxEZjgqRWpQU1ZVT9uuySlIVL84na5jEhpQY xseORTjns2/LJFpiKewYi1GzxvdUPKOEpaUNV+jbGNqLtXB1FACvqzNuQp1VmwJz6V7R 1Hmhy30X4K1B6k/wD5vOHNn5PCWTjuJHwpIgTAy2sp89e8u6f5FgrRq87Or7OOd06P5V P+HA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnkcttXB1fkHsJ3bJ77yVVBSdfvGa/9ooBkRAOevfl7P6kor1jN/mhZSVt+VX+VLxRh0pls X-Received: by 10.66.232.7 with SMTP id tk7mr47292488pac.94.1391566686745; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 18:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (ppp-110-168-89-45.revip5.asianet.co.th. [110.168.89.45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id vf7sm70769524pbc.5.2014.02.04.18.18.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Feb 2014 18:18:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52F19E8F.1030101@pathscale.com> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:14:39 +0700 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22C=2E_Bergstr=F6m=22?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS i86pc; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130802 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: opteron a1100 arm References: <1391538649.19169.79261269.3C5F49D1@webmail.messagingengine.com> <493DEB39-C4B4-409E-B8B2-B1B11E013754@netgate.com> <20140204223528.GF23872@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <52F16BA4.4060202@pathscale.com> <60985.1391554164@critter.freebsd.dk> <52F179C6.2050400@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Thomas Zander , Baptiste Daroussin , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Jim Thompson , Nathan Whitehorn , Poul-Henning Kamp X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 02:18:12 -0000 On 02/ 5/14 09:09 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 4 February 2014 16:35, Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Feb 4, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >> >>> On 02/04/14 16:49, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>>> In message <52F16BA4.4060202@pathscale.com>, =?UTF-8?B?IkMuIEJlcmdzdHLDtm0i?= w >>>> rites: >>>> >>>>> Think about how much power interconnects takes, PCIe and everything else.. >>>> Not to mention the raw savings of avoiding all the crap that has >>>> been nailed inexpertly onto the X86 platform over the years... >>>> >>>> Did you notice that "X86 arduino" Intel just launched ? >>>> >>>> Does anybody but me cringe at the thought of an Arduino with UEFI, ACPI, >>>> microcode updates and SMM ticking away in the background to make sure >>>> it doesn't run too hot ? >>>> >>> This AMD platform has UEFI and ACPI, so that's at least 2 out of 4... >>> -Nathan >> The "X86 arduino" ("Gallileo") has a Quark 1100 SoC running at 400MHz. It implements a 32-bit Pentium instruction set and has a TDP of 1.9W - 2.2W. >> >> I don't think it's going to "run too hot", and yes it runs SMM, UEFI and ACPI-compatible sleep states. > We'd still have to port to that platform. > > I'd give it go if someone would ship me one. :) If a few of these could be procured - I wonder if this is a good GSOC topic? Anyone know any students who might be interested?