From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 3 17:58:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFC4106564A; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rik@inse.ru) Received: from ns.rikbsd.org (ns.rikbsd.org [95.143.215.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4CE8FC12; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wn.rikbsd.org [192.168.1.254]) by ns.rikbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7CD2A5CE1E; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 18:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EDA6532.3030601@inse.ru> Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:06:42 +0400 From: Roman Kurakin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20110906) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Max Khon References: <20111202115446.GB25963@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <4ED974A2.7080606@FreeBSD.org> <4ED9EA27.8090206@inse.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Adrian Chadd , Doug Barton , Peter Jeremy , freebsd-current Subject: Re: CVS removal from the base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 17:58:52 -0000 Max Khon wrote: > Rik, > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Roman Kurakin wrote: > > >>> The fact that we have so many people who are radically change-averse, no >>> matter how rational the change; is a bug, not a feature. >>> >>> This particular bug is complicated dramatically by the fact that the >>> majority view seems to lean heavily towards "If I use it, it must be the >>> default and/or in the base" rather than seeing ports as part of the >>> overall operating SYSTEM. >>> >>> >> You are right in general, except one small factor. We are talking about >> bootstrap. >> CVS is used by many as the one of the ways to get the sources to the freshly >> installed system to recompile to the last available source. It will become >> inconvenient >> to do it through the process of installing some ports for that. Especially >> if corresponding >> ports would require some other ports as dependences. >> > Do you really use CVS and not cvsup/csup? CVS != csup. > I use ctm/csup to get(update) CVS source tree and cvs to checkout the exact version I need. Having cvs tree locally it is more convenient to keep one central repo for updating local systems based on different branches and to roll back a little bit for example with the ports tree in case I can't upgrade all needed ports to "current" for some reasons and got some problems with dependences. I can have what ever development system on the development machine, but unlikely I'll have one on all production systems by default since of additional potentially buggy packages, additional dependences, additional upgrade problems etc. rik > Max > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >