From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Nov 25 22:12:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29024 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29018 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:12:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA01049; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:13:16 -0800 (PST) To: Brett Glass cc: Wes Peters , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux to be deployed in Mexican schools; Where wasFreeBSD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:43:24 MST." <4.1.19981125223954.06d38d50@127.0.0.1> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:13:15 -0800 Message-ID: <1045.912060795@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Tell you what, Jordan: If you're ever hit by a car, remind me to blame > you for leaving the house. Assuming that I was hit by the car while crossing the street outside a cross-walk and without looking first, this is a good analogy if you don't quibble about the fact that the blame would more correctly fall upon my failure to look where I was going than on the act of simply leaving my house. It also supports my point, however, so I guess I'd also have to thank you for the fine analogy and congradulate you on finally getting the idea after having so many people attempt (and fail) to inject it directly into your head with the aid of particle accellerators and such. If you're using getting hit by a car as symbology for "a random act of god", on the other hand, then it's unfortunately a rather poor analogy on account of the fact that it a) shows a fundamental lack of understanding about what precipitates the great majority of auto accidents (driver error) and b) incorrectly equates the perils of system administration with that of random meteor impacts and other events completely outside one's control. A good system administrator has a great deal more control over their environment than that and can take a wide variety of preventive measures not available to the Extinction Event Scenario folks in order to prevent situations exactly like yours from occurring at all. Oh yeah, and transitive closure over a virtualized interface boundry. I almost forgot that bit. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message