From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 11:46:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D781065672 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645678FC25 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m7SBk25g064694; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:46:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m7SBk1oZ064691; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:46:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:46:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20080828064905.83cb034c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Message-ID: <20080828134204.W64545@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080827172946.5a1d4103@gom.home> <6C9E353A-3008-4E28-910C-212DBB9F6E28@bsdhost.net> <200808272208.47468.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <20080828055600.736f3447@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080828064905.83cb034c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:46:09 -0000 > MS was focused on building a filesytem that could store the outrageous > ACLs they wanted, and that was non-trival so - as usually - they quickly implemented OS/2 filesystem (at best, assuming no stolen code), and added their bloat then. performance is never a priority in Microsoft. exactly opposite is true. High quality of windows will kill Microsoft, few would buy new versions then. > (look at how long it took the > BSDs to have native file-level ACLs). because in unix they are not actually needed. users&groups system is just perfect. i don't know anyone here that actually use ACL under unix because he/she needs it. POSSIBLY it's needed for samba users to allow using this on windoze clients.