From owner-freebsd-net Wed Sep 4 9:20:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FC537B431 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F3143E65 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:20:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020904162014.HZMC19514.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:20:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA31434; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:12:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Barney Wolff Cc: Richard Tobin , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is UPnP good for anything? In-Reply-To: <20020904150657.GA17187@tp.databus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Barney Wolff wrote: > Don't. Just get an ADSL modem, and use ipfw + natd (and PPPoE if > necessary) to do anything the router would have done. > > If you really don't want to use FreeBSD for this task, the "cable/dsl" > routers that talk to the modem via Ethernet and have 4 switched ports > are so cheap that there is no reason to go for an integrated box. > I just paid US$29.95 for a D-Link DI-604 for my daughter. I got one of the Linksys wireless/Cable/DSL gateways.. It has 4 wired ports, a separate ethernet port for the dsl modem and a wireless AP. A friend bought a Siemens. almost identical specs. it's more expensive at $150 but it means that everyting can be linked together.. you can even find some with a printer port too. The firewall is very basic.. it does NAT so only incoming sessions it already expects (via a setup table) can come in.. both compaq and HP have one, as doDlink and several others. > > But I'd much rather use one of my FreeBSD boxes - fewer security risks, > more powerful firewall capability, better stability. > > On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 02:58:34PM +0100, Richard Tobin wrote: > > I'm considering buying an ADSL router, ... > > -- > Barney Wolff > I'm available by contract or FT: http://www.databus.com/bwresume.pdf > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message