From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Oct 23 19:45:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D96C1EFFD for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 19:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm3-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D981EA9 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 19:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1477251710; bh=dt+Mei4spfC6Rjs6LNGXAQaTJ69+8RqbefYsfJvUo0Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=RODYB80QsA358itV6a4kA//h3UeU6DMYnyQ9ZhzrmFfXkRhWJfpPvZaDw8M8VBDTi2HJHRrK8hLUUxo9tDdddSYiWp3kIPyfibe5oHR2Qkpsk7Jzurw8D7Cx7g73W4upG+PmFdlTnjYPtQT+g7cCGc0t7tD5o8O9Qr0zvtoM+BU= Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2016 19:41:50 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.117] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2016 19:41:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2016 19:41:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 901580.21129.bm@smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: JURabn8VM1npSGf0IhPifknB8TDOM9KLUGy5MGFfcrkkT6f bOMaq0cI7Qxw7qfzZ3voFoIrDEy_mn7zLxYjJeVA_uXrfZOF9Sq65sdtpP3N eS69TOG_HYx0fL1N4RosxE0S1ucsZ4qjYfwewmD5sA5n1JAPgEjknBMpJpl5 uS9FuqGCvjwvZ_TjCvMB.sCT.8wefDcJm4zb7qOZQT8euFBnlPPXAn7Cr4GV LklPC8lZoP0HRIRlJuB7D8IiaCdZbOabmZBOHIsaYgfbh8p7blXZXgdqnWzr VTIIhYmsWWGuVuXDFa4MlJmkS7YP12Nj_pnp8n5Y8m2Kdz8lWcG_tN23Aw2b hErAe4I.zr7.pRqIJNEy_5d1VpCAbA7CsBOvUxN807tKmW.w7uwWzdSBJxBM 8F2EVIMMl6N7YuKqkaeLjnp42rYOuDZys0jcIcFuFQNV5rdGngPlHFjBrb1U rGlR3mccyKbCCT2cgAjRJ6wVA8wwSxWrEKUh6QClXHCrm55BCpe4D2nUYSTS PY5vVPhTy0gTN3qeWeZ__4eXDltP_oJy7VIoeallHDTaIw6HnR.Qgf0bstja jxC6No90Sxeatzf4uGfdrRw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: misc/jive deleted Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 15:41:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20161022024510.7cvnhc2fdh7h7arh@ozzmosis.com> <20161022092738.GA5690@lonesome.com> <20161023150215.5c1ba333@efreet.kappastar.com> <20161023155353.GW51420@home.opsec.eu> <19a23a50-b957-407b-8f2b-25c8d1e44be4@unixarea.de> <20161023183005.GA2011@c720-r292778-amd64> In-Reply-To: <20161023183005.GA2011@c720-r292778-amd64> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 19:45:32 -0000 [Default] On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 20:30:05 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: >El día Sunday, October 23, 2016 a las 02:13:12PM -0400, scratch65535@att.net escribió: > >> I've to disagree, Matthias. Technical people refusing to be >> part of the social world make themselves the tools of >> psychopaths. Then we have, as the mordant joke goes, the program >> nuke_germany being objected to not on humanitarian grounds, but >> because the program should be nuke_country with the target name >> being passed as an arg. > >I do not understand your reply. It already starts with top posting, what >I do not understand. Your message itself, I do no understand either due >to my poor English knowledge or the grammar and syntaxis of your >lines. > > matthias I'd be surprised if my top posting really prevented your being able to understand me, Matthias, :-) but let me try again, using different syntax. Technical people live in the consensual world, not in some special sanitised world where only bits and bytes are real. Because technical people live in the same world everyone else lives in, we must not pretend that social questions are someone else's problem. The reason we must not pretend is that psychopaths (those who have no conscience, and exploit other living creatures without hesitation or remorse) would use us for their purposes. And, like poleznye duraki / nützliche Idioten, we would obey them willingly.