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Grimes" Cc: Kyle Evans , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Return of config files to ^/etc Message-ID: <20200215200353.xdmx4fq3fmgaeq2s@mutt-hbsd> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD mutt-hbsd 13.0-CURRENT-HBSD FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT-HBSD X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xFF2E67A277F8E1FA References: <202002151936.01FJaUj4048415@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dbyatuhu3ymxowhl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202002151936.01FJaUj4048415@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48Kh5q5YJJz3K3D X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=hardenedbsd.org header.s=google header.b=T6SN3cq/; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f33 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[hardenedbsd.org:s=google]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hardenedbsd.org]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[hardenedbsd.org:+]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.05)[ip: (-6.60), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.90), asn: 15169(-1.68), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:04:00 -0000 --dbyatuhu3ymxowhl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 11:36:30AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > I'm curious how long downstream projects would need to support both > > > paradigms. > > > > >=20 > > The answer for both downstreams and us is "however long stable/12 is > > supported" for that particular project. >=20 > As of now downstreams that support stable/11 are already > in the position of having to support both. Not all downstreams support stable/11 anymore, HardenedBSD being one of them. I'm not against reverting back to the old behavior, but I need to know what additional long-term tasking to add to my plate. 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