From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 06:59:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FB91065672 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650508FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NIzTd-0007Fm-O9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:59:45 -0800 Message-ID: <26739505.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:59:45 -0800 (PST) From: Ivo Karabojkov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091210150639.2da33de4@scorpio.seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: ivo@kit-bg.com References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210184502.30fce047@ernst.jennejohn.org> <200912101921.nBAJLQf1077338@fire.js.berklix.net> <20091210150639.2da33de4@scorpio.seibercom.net> Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:59:46 -0000 I think democracy is a choice of freedom. Freedom what to use, AND, in such cases - freedom where to work! If you are marketing specialist probably you should NOT touch much of your computer's control gear. If you are an IT specialist or support such treatment is similar to treat you as a cattle. It's only up to you to allow or forbid such treatment. The freedom has it's price, of course. I always choose to pay it. If someone hires me to manage something he should listen to my or my team's advices. Otherwise he spends money for nothing and I earn headache and broken nerves! And as for academic battle: If universities deny to make tests, experiments and cutting edge implementations then who would??? If IT or computing science, or telecommunication departments are treated in such manner probably they should be dismissed for not letting them to damag= e our future specialists! It's a sin to read just one book, even if it is the Holly Bible!=20 God, forgive me for comparing =D0=9C$ with the Bible, it's just for convict= ion ;-)! In fact I won partially such a battle in 2002-2003, and even if I don't wor= k for our University they still relay on FreeBSD for major part of their IT infrastructure. I wish you all freedom and success! Jerry-107 wrote: >=20 > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:26 +0100 > Julian H. Stacey replied: >=20 >>> Fortuantely, I had no problem setting up a "black" FreeBSD box to >>> preserve my sanity. >> >>A tip for those threatened with no BSD box at work: >>FreeBSD runs fine _inside_ a box that looks like a multi sheet scanner. >>OK, slow, but invisible to managers who require MS only. >> >>These scanners often lie abandoned in company junk rooms (& cheap >>on web), as people know they used to need MS's abandoned NT (=3D Not >>There) operating system. Well they do ... until one installs BSD. >>Credit to David M. who did the FreeBSD work. Pictures of hardware >>to look for in junk rooms: http://www.berklix.com/scanjet/ >> >>Cheers, >>Julian >=20 > Out of pure morbid curiosity, would you please answer this question for > me. >=20 > You work for a corporation that specifically requires the use of > a specific OS, the OS itself is not material to this question. It also > forbids the use of any unauthorized OS or equipment on the companies > network. You decide to ignore their directives and eventually: >=20 > 1) Get caught > 2) Cause a problem with the company's network, etc. >=20 > Now, when you get fired and possible charged with a crime, do you: >=20 > 1) Cry and bitch that they are being unfair? > 2) Accept the fact that you deserved to be dismissed? >=20 > Where I use to work, two or three employees were fired each year > because they thought they knew more than everyone else. They failed to > realize that they were being compensated to do what they were told and > not what they thought they should be doing. The bottom line is if they > are not smart enough to follow company directives, they are certainly > not capable of instigating their own protocol. >=20 > --=20 > Jerry > gesbbb@yahoo.com >=20 > |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > | >=20 > Grandpa Charnock's Law: > =09You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive. >=20 > =09[I thought it was when your kids learned to drive. Ed.] >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Root-exploit-for-FreeBS= D-tp26728358p26739505.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com.