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Date:      Tue, 17 Oct 95 13:41 PDT
From:      pete@puffin.pelican.com (Pete Carah)
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Problems with 'df' not doing anything
Message-ID:  <m0t5Ip9-0000ReC@puffin.pelican.com>
In-Reply-To: <199510171741.KAA27855@phaeton.artisoft.com>

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In article <199510171741.KAA27855@phaeton.artisoft.com> Terry writes:
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>You have a hard nfs mount where the server has gone away.

>Change it to a soft mount, or use explicit FS names excluding the dead one.

That last (explicit FS names) does little good in IRIX 4.x; you still get
the timeouts even for fs's not mentioned in the args (at least we do all
soft,bg mounts at that place; there are lots of nfs mounts and normally at
least one is down any given time :-)  (actually soft mounts are a bit
dangerous in irix since they default to async, but normally it doesn't
seem to hurt us.)

Don't know about other sysv variants; most of SGI's network code is pretty
direct from BSD anyhow and not sysv.

I'd hope it helps FreeBSD correctly.

Soft mounts are still annoying for 'df'; our timeout is set pretty long.

Something that bothers me in freebsd is that you can't force-unmount a
dead hard mount; we should have some provision for that since it leads
to unnecessary dirty reboots.  SGI did that one 'right' (it does wait
an inordinate amount of time, like 3-5 minutes per mount, but at least
it unmounts even with a dead server).  I think umount -f is supposed to
do this but it doesn't work, at least in 1.1.5 (which is all I've tried
it in).

-- Pete



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