From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 23:42:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0DB106566B; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com (nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.168.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421508FC14; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nskntcmgw09p ([61.9.169.169]) by nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20120602234153.RUGB25972.nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw09p>; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:41:53 +0000 Received: from hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au ([58.172.112.105]) by nskntcmgw09p with BigPond Outbound id Hbhs1j0072GVmci01bhsrP; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 23:41:53 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Lam+G0ji c=1 sm=1 a=0GO/22z+lHYfckWJ4naYnw==:17 a=jp9Ou2LAn8wA:10 a=twTT4oUKOlYA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=GHIR_BbyAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=ENtQdDj92Fwve7_gTAsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=0GO/22z+lHYfckWJ4naYnw==:117 Received: from white (white.hs [10.0.5.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au (8.14.5/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q52NdYWE015587 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:39:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) From: "Dewayne Geraghty" To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Ulrich_Sp=F6rlein'?=" References: <4301C0E3-3C53-46E2-B5A5-7BD120CD775F@FreeBSD.org><4FC5F794.9050506@gmail.com> <4FC68FC0.1010707@FreeBSD.org><4FC69352.4000702@FreeBSD.org><20120530214803.GD85232@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120601191331.GR10094@acme.spoerlein.net> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:39:34 +1000 Message-ID: <2CE776CCC5854C31BBEA03BB1183755D@white> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20120601191331.GR10094@acme.spoerlein.net> Thread-Index: Ac1AKtRne9T/FGumS4W0cSrKk7fDKAA6zj5Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Cc: 'Michael Scheidell' , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: RE: [HEADSUP] New framework options aka optionng X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 23:42:01 -0000 ...snip... > > I hate WITHOUT_NLS and NO_PORTDOCS with a passion. They work > for 80% of the ports you are likely to install, so they are > not a safe way to escape docs or NLS. Why bother? Seriously, > could someone give me a usecase for them? > > Cheers, > Uli > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" A use case being that we provide low electrical powered firewalls/servers for small businesses, they use 1-4G compact flash to hold the OS & ports depending on purpose. Users use the services provided by servers; administrators are hands-off after the primary build. The command line isn't used and hence documentation isn't required. Anything non-critical to the functioning of the server is removed. Ideally we'd like NOPORTDOCS and other directives to work consistently across all ports, rather than, as we do now, repackage the packages without the things unnecessary to our mission, like: examples, doc... I take your point Mel, we should file PR's. I recall some ports failed to build the package if doc wasn't included, which resulted in our time-pressed solution above. Dewayne.