From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 28 09:07:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74872758 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D8C8FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id LAA23615; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:07:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1Tddbu-000P0i-Pz; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:07:14 +0200 Message-ID: <50B5D441.8030507@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:07:13 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dieter BSD Subject: Re: Support for "old" hardware (was:Re: kern/148741: [sound] Headphones are deaf (do not work) on Lenovo ThinkPad X300) References: <20121127231130.106340@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <20121127231130.106340@gmx.com> Mail-Followup-Fo: bit-bucket@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:07:19 -0000 on 28/11/2012 01:11 Dieter BSD said the following: > Alexander writes: >> Also, adding special exception for this laptop to the driver is quite >> pointless because while it will pass next 6 months FreeBSD release cycle >> this already not new laptop will be out of market for even more time and >> will be mostly forgotten. > > Are we to throw computers in the landfill once they are 5 minutes old? > Not very green. :-( > >> AC'97 is absolutely different beast. It is so old that I have no plans >> to spend my time on fixing it. > > AC'97 may be useful or not useful. This is not a function of how old it is. > > Unix is from the early 1970s and we still find it useful and we still > maintain and improve it. > > Better watch out, or the doctors will say that your body is too old > to spend their time fixing. Is Alexander obliged to work on support for this hardware? If you care so much about AC'97, then please by all means start maintaining the driver. Thank you. -- Andriy Gapon