From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 31 19:43:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD1316A41B for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (trang.nuxi.org [74.95.12.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBA513C48A for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l7VJgjVH004801; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:42:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l7VJgiHm004800; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:42:44 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: =?unknown-8bit?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= Message-ID: <20070831194244.GA4565@dragon.NUXI.org> Mail-Followup-To: obrien@freebsd.org, =?unknown-8bit?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <-3502020561049594852@unknownmsgid> <20070829191310.GA50909@freebsd.org> <50152.2001:6f8:101e:0:20e:cff:fe6d:6adb.1188416964.squirrel@webmail.alpha-tierchen.de> <20070831142032.GD79097@dragon.NUXI.org> <53082.192.168.1.2.1188586737.squirrel@webmail.alpha-tierchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <53082.192.168.1.2.1188586737.squirrel@webmail.alpha-tierchen.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding k9 and k10 to bsd.cpu.mk X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:43:15 -0000 On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 08:58:57PM +0200, Bjrn Knig wrote: > Björn König wrote: > >> Intel's first Pentium 4 with SSE3 is called "prescott". We could use > >> "venice" analogously to represent SSE3-capable Athlon64 CPUs. > > David O'Brien wrote: > > No! NO! AMD core names does not mean the same as Intel ones. > > Look folks, there is a clear way for this - the CPUID family. > > Pentium 4 processors before Prescott belong to family 15. Prescott and > recent Pentium 4 processors still use 15 as family ID. If I understand you > correctly then there should be no distinction between these processors > because they have the same family ID, but there is one in bsd.cpu.mk > because of SSE3. Not quite. CPUID Family is vendor-specific. The Family value for Intel cannot be compared with the meaning of Family for AMD (or VIA). AMD bumps the CPUID Family value for each new major architecture generation. I have no idea what's the meaning of "Family" by Intel. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? Let's not play "Jeopardy-style quoting"