From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Apr 19 23:39:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F9814C06 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:39:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA21119 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:53:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:53:17 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: You can take my source. (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Am i doing my part? :) -Alfred ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:52:08 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: flux@microsoft.com Subject: You can take my source. In re: http://www.microsoft.com/mind/0599/flux/flux0599.htm I think you need to take into account that not all "free software" is copylefted or 'GPL' You conviently neglect to mention (as most people do) the BSD license. The BSD license allows for closed source swallowing of the code it protects, however makes two stipulations: a) credit is given somehow (redistributed source must retain the copyright) b) you can't hold the author liable for the program's behavior, (similar to what EVERY piece of commercial software out there makes you sign an agreement on) here is a sample of the BSD "open source" license: /* * Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 * The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. * (c) UNIX System Laboratories, Inc. * All or some portions of this file are derived from material licensed * to the University of California by American Telephone and Telegraph * Co. or Unix System Laboratories, Inc. and are reproduced herein with * the permission of UNIX System Laboratories, Inc. * * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions * are met: * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the * documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software * must display the following acknowledgement: * This product includes software developed by the University of * California, Berkeley and its contributors. * 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors * may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software * without specific prior written permission. * * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND * ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE * ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE * FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL * DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS * OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF * SUCH DAMAGE. * * @(#)kern_exit.c 8.7 (Berkeley) 2/12/94 * $Id: kern_exit.c,v 1.78 1999/04/17 08:36:04 peter Exp $ */ Several high performance appliances are based on BSD code with BSD licensing, (NetAPP, Whistle's "Interjet", cisco, BSDI's bsd/os) By lumping all free software into one catagory you do the BSD community a big disservice, please do more research next time. You can start at http://www.freebsd.org, http://www.netbsd.org, http://www.openbsd.org I also have to say that your prediction that open source will doom the software industry is absurd. Just think about how much more in R&D (the most expensive part of making software) is spent because companies are afraid to share code amongst themselves? I have nothing against propriatary software when it works and has all the features I need, but when something trully needs fixing it's a godsend to have source availble. Wouldn't it be nice to get emails with patches to fix bugs in Windows rather than call after call, after call for support? Oh, wait... I just remeber, you guys are now 100% pay per incident.... *sigh* -Alfred Perlstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message