From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Apr 17 10:08:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02500 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:08:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02389 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:07:48 GMT (envelope-from dwilde1@ibm.net) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-79-236.ca.us.ibm.net [32.100.79.236]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA65426; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:39:40 GMT Message-ID: <35376970.24006442@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:38:40 -0700 From: Don Wilde Reply-To: dwilde1@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Remy NONNENMACHER CC: "Karl M. Joch" , "freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: salesman is thinking..... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Remy NONNENMACHER wrote: > > This may seems a 'back to the roots' call but, sincerely, do you really > believe it is time to compete with the W95 like integration of Linux ? > Do you think that requesting all GPL products developpers to provide a setup > script for FBSD is possible ? > I think we need to do that as part of porting. Really, most have sample scripts, all we need to do is write something that will plug in our new server's domain name and IP and make the script active. That's a little thing, but it would add immeasurably to the instant usability of FreeBSD. Every consultant wants to look good _quickly_ in a client's office, and having the @#$!! thing come up saying "can't find file!" is silly. > What FBSD needs, as a server box, is a mind change. Jordan told us what > we *ARE* doing. History predicts that we *CAN'T* compete on GUI's. Time > to imagine something new. > I agree. I only suggested setting up a 'port-driven' GUI/Personal Station because I thought it would be a quick (read minimum effort) answer to the PC wannatryit's we get queries from. I _like_ the CLI, although I'm for 18 years a programmer. BSD is driven by pipes and shells and text files, to obfuscate that would be to destroy it. What we need to do is to make our script tools complete and orthogonal. For example, aduser does all you want with adding, but where is rmuser? That's what we need to do, find ll those little gotchas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message