From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Dec 24 21:27:05 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AC5134EE89 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic317-35.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic317-35.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.184.46]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F8AE6D388 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: kTLBtJ0VM1nzqysb7mnpPi_7Wrkh7kRhLPTeITc9X1oJ0qE5utxy3aM.u_Fiobd Y_d9Ro8q6ZXjt9RD7Wz8JYxyKkTGxTxoqezcwFXNokMBnqbILxjsJSreJjgI0HOgdtvTTWXa6ETO LqCV.7YABIvYD7krQk3mnMGh9NW3opBNahJO2dK36rrvRN2q2jgiV5kkAa504gG3B97yTyBYPutR KOz38xwsKFgT5Jb3HxKl9QHUY9VNt9xgEaO.1HTgWviX_bXiWVfvX3.QlujdIAjYndgDry541kMV SUWCPaO4vj3mYR6hK5qtXp.PUpk2gTsqWUe7TG.L7gN00daBeUcopVIkNvjUkQKGF_d05qSOSVoL qIWtUh8hBkNqCL37QzXAtdviemp1lmkDd98G3PzY2niLxBF43hqs5JRXvjN44RqDdJNLDHuk7WXi 3nHIh9cwvUMZWukWhaCH6VnTF9QA8P7suas440_qrYV_ozp5xHPeEdEujzhpMDd93MKK.48fg2YT XSrdeRWkvy3B4ndCVI6RXYIrPeUIwj.LK83UomXLT2wDs3FVSAEZeypYS5UMIKVh3YEx6FY7xFs_ BIyFm3R5SWnKXbnM1ZruRuFkuzr25fxN6XPEeK4UmV5qSjGCxHCP7a.1cb56.NhVGGWo1FrTM4fY nvPEBkLejaqediPLMtotOvXFUCmW3LdfDMkXuvuqVf9o8cXCnfyTN2eioDldZZGaVANAPSzcG.op gpQMUlbt72CsW0wI7cxE.mk.e93COIPw7gOb0Ap_I3ZERDkqlClv2NFJPOOyz_5oRNyX9k7BXRXw 8gzpq6_lsArGSFurKRg7XeNsfEFMU48gpaaMl4xrQCvSh0UAbj_Le.poRi3tFXrVcSbUDx0aHJ5y qUzlJXFe6URsuM89r95FA47QGe2FF1kefEpIAErEyFHRSBimRLA.JKuRwLuxHZ9IkOMB4UHi_q5n 8IO_IRWZ.XKceVs0Ar6APkh_i9TjGwHmgVEUhi25dsA.5EqNd7St7TmeFRMgBEkNndsblNJXoK9z bM.HF2E314A1rP7MXCp.nidbhaXnJB_EsLYA0DhW.1FpLNNwnPiOx Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic317.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:26:57 +0000 Received: from c-67-170-167-181.hsd1.or.comcast.net (EHLO [192.168.1.109]) ([67.170.167.181]) by smtp429.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 8b3599f65769729d76dc83ee9d679c76 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:26:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: head -r3418363: top -opid process list order is rather odd (top -Saopid example shown) Message-Id: <6C9BDD8A-7889-4819-86E3-CE13AC3323AC@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 13:26:52 -0800 To: FreeBSD Current X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F8AE6D388 X-Spamd-Bar: + X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.43 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.05)[-0.054,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.54)[0.540,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(1.31)[ip: (4.46), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.20), asn: 36646(0.96), country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.15)[0.150,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[46.184.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:27:05 -0000 =46rom my from=3Dsource head -r3418363 context, top with -opid does not seem to sort in a coherent order, not time of process creation order (either direction) and not in just-PID numeric order (either direction). For example: PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU = COMMAND 0 root 24 -16 - 0 368K swapin 1 0:00 0.00% = [kernel] 16 root 1 -16 - 0 16K - 3 0:00 0.00% = [soaiod2] 752 root 1 20 0 18M 18M select 1 0:07 0.01% = /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/db/ntp/ntpd.pid -c /etc/ntp.conf -g 800 root 1 20 0 11M 908K nanslp 1 0:01 0.00% = /usr/sbin/cron -s 1 root 1 20 0 9900K 132K wait 3 0:00 0.00% = [init] 17 root 1 -16 - 0 16K - 0 0:00 0.00% = [soaiod3] 2 root 1 -16 - 0 16K crypto 0 0:00 0.00% = [crypto] 18 root 1 -16 - 0 16K - 0 0:00 0.00% = [soaiod4] 850 root 1 20 0 13M 2756K wait 3 0:00 0.00% = login [pam] (login) 3 root 1 -16 - 0 16K crypto 0 0:00 0.00% = [crypto returns 0] 19 root 1 -16 - 0 16K mmcsd 0 0:25 0.00% = [mmcsd0: mmc/sd card] 643 root 1 20 0 11M 1124K select 2 0:01 0.00% = /usr/sbin/syslogd -s 4 root 1 -16 - 0 16K crypto 0 0:00 0.00% = [crypto returns 1] 20 root 1 -16 - 0 16K mmcsd 0 0:00 0.00% = [mmcsd0boot0: mmc/sd] 5 root 1 -16 - 0 16K crypto 0 0:00 0.00% = [crypto returns 2] 21 root 1 -16 - 0 16K mmcsd 0 0:00 0.00% = [mmcsd0boot1: mmc/sd] 6 root 1 -16 - 0 16K crypto 0 0:00 0.00% = [crypto returns 3] 22 root 3 -16 - 0 48K psleep 3 0:12 0.00% = [pagedaemon] 5270 root 1 20 0 14M 3780K CPU2 2 0:00 0.14% = top -Saopid 662 root 1 20 0 11M 680K select 0 0:00 0.00% = /usr/sbin/rpcbind 7 root 2 -16 - 0 32K - 0 0:00 0.00% = [cam] 23 root 1 -16 - 0 16K psleep 2 0:00 0.00% = [vmdaemon] 5255 root 1 20 0 12M 3092K wait 0 0:00 0.00% = -sh (sh) 8 root 1 -16 - 0 16K waitin 0 0:00 0.00% = [sctp_iterator] 24 root 3 -16 - 0 48K qsleep 3 0:12 0.01% = [bufdaemon] 712 root 1 52 0 12M 616K select 0 0:00 0.00% = /usr/sbin/mountd -r 9 root 1 -16 - 0 16K - 1 0:04 0.00% = [rand_harvestq] 25 root 1 20 - 0 16K vlruwt 0 0:04 0.00% = [vnlru] 10 root 1 -16 - 0 16K audit_ 0 0:00 0.00% = [audit] 26 root 1 16 - 0 16K syncer 0 1:45 0.00% = [syncer] 714 root 1 52 0 12M 728K select 3 0:00 0.00% = nfsd: master (nfsd) 11 root 4 155 ki31 0 64K CPU0 0 144.6H 397.09% = [idle] 235 root 1 20 0 11M 564K select 3 0:00 0.00% = dhclient: system.syslog (dhclient) 715 root 32 52 0 11M 1120K rpcsvc 3 0:00 0.00% = nfsd: server (nfsd) 12 root 18 -52 - 0 288K WAIT 2 2:29 1.43% = [intr] 412 root 1 20 0 10M 72K select 2 0:00 0.00% = /sbin/devd 796 root 1 52 0 20M 672K select 0 0:00 0.00% = /usr/sbin/sshd 13 root 3 -8 - 0 48K - 1 0:11 0.00% = [geom] 14 root 20 -68 - 0 320K - 0 0:02 0.00% = [usb] 238 root 1 52 0 12M 416K select 1 0:00 0.00% = dhclient: awg0 [priv] (dhclient) 15 root 1 -16 - 0 16K - 0 0:00 0.00% = [soaiod1] 239 _dhcp 1 20 0 12M 484K select 1 0:00 0.00% = dhclient: awg0 (dhclient) (Basically the Pine64+ 2GB [aarch64] above was idle after boot other = than some runs of top.) I see this oddity across architectures, for example amd64, powerpc64, aarch64, armv7. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)