From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 23:40: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8251F37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9DB43E77 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:40:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA87e5pk028108 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 00:40:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 00:39:35 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20021108.003935.11624259.imp@bsdimp.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200211072337.gA7NbK1m082069@arkadia.nv.cox.net> References: <3DCAF6C1.D01805FE@mindspring.com> <200211072337.gA7NbK1m082069@arkadia.nv.cox.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <200211072337.gA7NbK1m082069@arkadia.nv.cox.net> Ray Kohler writes: : Hear hear, I agree. There's no need to expose what ought to be : "private" data to the world, especially when we can get the additional : benefit here of letting us play with the implementation. -current already does this. The problem is that we're trying to shoot the bad access in the head, and that is what is screwing people. So the problem isn't that we're trying to export private data to the world. Quite the contrary, we're trying to eliminate it and having growing pains. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message