From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 11:56:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BB0106566B for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from bene1.itea.ntnu.no (bene1.itea.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:3::56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0C38FC13 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766CC24053; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:56:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [129.241.211.43] (baktus.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.43]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF5624051; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:56:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48B6926B.2040006@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:56:27 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080827172946.5a1d4103@gom.home> <6C9E353A-3008-4E28-910C-212DBB9F6E28@bsdhost.net> <200808272208.47468.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <20080828055600.736f3447@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080828064905.83cb034c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20080828134204.W64545@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080828134204.W64545@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bene1.itea.ntnu.no Cc: RW , Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:56:30 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> (look at how long it took the >> BSDs to have native file-level ACLs). > > because in unix they are not actually needed. > > users&groups system is just perfect. That's one man's opinion. > i don't know anyone here that actually use ACL under unix > because he/she needs it. It depends on your definition of "need", I guess. The groups file could always be the power set[1] of the passwd file. Svein Halvor [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_set