From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 14 11:17:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B2816A4CE for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:17:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lists.soekris.com (lists.soekris.com [64.105.92.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DC843D41 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:17:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.soekris.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EBHcAs049263; Sat, 14 May 2005 04:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Garrett Wollman From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 13 May 2005 22:33:30 EDT." <17029.25466.587442.577866@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 13:17:19 +0200 Message-ID: <94462.1116069439@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-05:09.htt [REVISED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:17:23 -0000 In message <17029.25466.587442.577866@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu>, Garrett Wollman writes: >< said: > >> The political problem is that if all operating systems do that, >> Intel has a pretty dud feature on their hands, and they are not >> particularly eager to accept that fact. > >Intel already had a pretty dud feature on their hands; just ask anyone >in the architecture community (probably including those who work for >Intel). While quite likely true, that is not really the issue here. The question is what it will take to make Intel warn their customers. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.