From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 13 17:56:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57D216A41F for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:56:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DC243D48 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:56:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i5so749365wra for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:56:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XxkIbuc/pFHCe1B2O8aY2a1aKSssksm4ptBp+Cb1S/o683iybIWbjfjWzYFw1/4XTWh0fXvHQdBK8408BhjZCUvi9h/yi8ZrQjO8tzxDNoLpcRnfwhWlO3t2T30jG1d27FgEGs/3/EqryXNsVMhaPEJg4WmENdPX2qcIs9CA2ic= Received: by 10.54.27.52 with SMTP id a52mr2637863wra; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.11 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:56:46 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton To: "Gary W. Swearingen" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050811191817.GA22328@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050812110041.GA28053@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Browser ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:56:48 -0000 On 8/12/05, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Nikolas Britton writes: >=20 > > On 8/12/05, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > >> Nikolas Britton writes: > >> > >> > Like what? > >> > >> Like the indemnification clause in > >> http://mail.google.com/mail/help/terms_of_use.html > >> > >> One can limit their exposure to such risks by accessing such services > >> as read-only services, except for their normal SMTP services which, > >> AFAIK, are covered only by implied licenses with no indemnification. > >> I hope. > > > > I'm sure you'd find that in any type of web service. >=20 > In any type, probably, but not in every service; I've found several > e-mail service providers (two free) without indemnification clauses. > Unfortunately, I can't find a single domain name supplier, except > there are probably some outside the United States of Attorneys. >=20 > > Say if I > > disclosed, under an NDA, the code that SCO claims was stolen and put > > into Linux using Google's Gmail service and then SCO turns around and > > sues google for posting the message, because they have deeper pockets > > then I. Google has nothing to do with this other then being the > > intermedium, I'm the one that did the damage. >=20 > And let's also say that you were 100% innocent. Google can still > have you pay for the most expensive legal firm they could find to > take depositions, argue about source code in hearings and court, etc, > before SCO lost their case. It unenforceable from Google's perspective because they don't know me from Adam and click through contracts are questionable at best, the person you are talking to may not even exist in the real world, they could be a minor, someone could have stolen my identity and use it to sign up with gmail, and a million other reasons.