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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 19:24:29 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090404010204090504030402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/20/2018 13:09, Greg V wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:56 PM, bob prohaska wrot= e: >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 05:14:07PM +1100, Brian Scott wrote: >>> >>> =C2=A0I believe the problem now is that support for builtin sound on = the >>> RPI3 >>> =C2=A0is still a work in progress (it goes through the HDMI subsystem= and I >>> =C2=A0think it was a 32 vs. 64 bit issue but is a mystery to me beyon= d >>> that). >>> >> >> I infer that sound is only a distant murmur on the Pi3..... > > You can always use a USB sound adapter though! Yes, and it works perfectly well. The issue appears to be that the codebase is 64-bit and the interface piece is 32; this made for some trouble that hasn't been resolved in trying to get a driver to "play nice" with the hardware. But a USB sound adapter works fine; I've been running one now for a nice long time.=C2=A0 It has another advantage as well; the built-in sound, wh= ile it works on the Pi2 and similar, has (IMHO) a crap noise margin and thus even a $5 USB adapter sounds better! --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------ms090404010204090504030402 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC DdgwggagMIIEiKADAgECAhMA5EiKghDOXrvfxYxjITXYDdhIMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGL MQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4GA1UECAwHRmxvcmlkYTESMBAGA1UEBwwJTmljZXZpbGxlMRkw FwYDVQQKDBBDdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExDMRgwFgYDVQQLDA9DdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgQ0ExITAf BgNVBAMMGEN1ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBMTEMgMjAxNyBDQTAeFw0xNzA4MTcxNjQyMTdaFw0yNzA4 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