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Date:      Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:45:52 -0400
From:      Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org>
To:        freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Update for www/amd64/motherboards.sgml - please review
Message-ID:  <20050815154552.A95576@cons.org>

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Can somebody who has the SGML system running and is a native speaker
of English please review the appended diff?

It contains entries for the 4 mainboards that I tried with
FreeBSD/AMD64 recently.

Thanks
	Martin

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RCS file: /home/dcvs/www/en/platforms/amd64/motherboards.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.36
diff -u -r1.36 motherboards.sgml
--- motherboards.sgml	20 Jul 2005 21:39:52 -0000	1.36
+++ motherboards.sgml	15 Aug 2005 19:40:26 -0000
@@ -46,6 +46,42 @@
       <td>Integrated NIC does not work, otherwise fully functional.</td>
     </tr>
     <tr>
+      <td>Abit</td>
+      <td><a href=3D"http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/techspec.php?cate=
gories=3D1&model=3D176">
+	  KV8-Pro</a></td>
+      <td>VIA K8T800 / Socket 754</td>
+      <td><a href=3D"mailto:cracauer@freebsd.org">Martin Cracauer</a></td>
+      <td>6-betas, 7-current</td>
+      <td>On-board ethernet controller (vge(4)) does not work unless stati=
cally compiled into kernel. Temperature and fans monitors are connected to =
a custom chip, not the Winbond chip they have for voltage. They don't give =
out documentation on this custom "uGuru" chip, so no Linux or FreeBSD monit=
oring. Sound works just fine. No ECC memory support. I replaced it with an =
Asus K8V-X which has working monitoring and ECC support. I would recommend =
not giving money to people who needlessly invent cute chips and tell Linux =
and FreeBSD to go stuff themself when they want to support these chips. Con=
trary to common believe this is also not a very good overclocker. You need =
a non-public custom BIOS to even get a working AGP/PCI lock, although the w=
hole point of the K8T800-pro chipset is the ability to have that lock.</td>
+    </tr>
+    <tr>
+      <td>AccelerTech</td>
+      <td><a href=3D"http://www.rioworks.com/HDAMB.htm">;
+	  ATO2082</a></td>
+      <td>AMD 8111/8131 chipset, dual socket 940</td>
+      <td><a href=3D"mailto:cracauer@freebsd.org">Martin Cracauer</a></td>
+      <td>6-betas, 7-current</td>
+      <td>Different name for the Armima Rioworks HDAMB board, see my comme=
nts there.</td>
+    </tr>
+    <tr>
+      <td>Arima</td>
+      <td><a href=3D"http://www.rioworks.com/HDAMB.htm">;
+	  Rioworks HDAMB</a></td>
+      <td>AMD 8111/8131 chipset, dual socket 940</td>
+      <td><a href=3D"mailto:cracauer@freebsd.org">Martin Cracauer</a></td>
+      <td>6-betas, 7-current on August 2005</td>
+      <td>Also sold under the name "AccelerTech ATO2082". Works fine. Soun=
d works out of box, as do USB, firewire and SATA. Ethernet only works if co=
mpiled statically into the kernel, not as a module. Memory seems slow, I ha=
ve PC2100 but it is even slower than it should be with that. Temperature mo=
nitoring seems broken. Suspend-to-RAM does not work. This is one of the few=
 normal-size ATX dual Opteron boards so that you can use a normal case. Can=
 be had for $120 or so on ebay. Revisions up to C0 or so do not support DDR=
400 memory (PC3200), only DDR333 (PC2700). No dual-core support. Most likel=
y no support for E stepping Opterons. Note just in case: like all socket 94=
0 bords it needs registered memory. Nothing fancy or fast but a nice board =
if you want it small, don't need PCI-X or PCIe and want full FreeBSD suppor=
t. </td>
+    </tr>
+    <tr>
+      <td>Asus</td>
+      <td><a href=3D"http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=3DK8N-E%20Deluxe&=
langs=3D09">
+	  KVN-Deluxe</a></td>
+      <td>NVidia NForce 3 250 GB / Socket 754</td>
+      <td><a href=3D"mailto:cracauer@freebsd.org">Martin Cracauer</a></td>
+      <td>6-betas, 7-current</td>
+      <td>Don't buy this. Ethernet needs the reimplementation of a reverse=
 engineered Linux driver and didn't do 1000mps for me. Sound would not work=
. Under Windows, the AGP port has hangs/stutter with NVidia 6x00 video card=
s, in case you plan on dual-purpose with gaming. Lots of issues with Windoz=
e drivers, too. Sometimes crashes hard after using PCI TV card, requiring p=
ysical (PSU) powercycle. Not very fast for compilation, my Via boards are f=
aster (see other entries). However, this board has the Ethernet not on the =
PCI bus and under Linux (where the driver works) you can get insane speeds =
of ethernet and disk, at the same time. Has ECC support, too. Still, FreeBS=
D was no joy on this board.</td>
+    </tr>
+    <tr>
       <td>Asus</td>
       <td><a href=3D"http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=3D2&amp;=
model=3D375&amp;l1=3D3&amp;l2=3D15&amp;l3=3D0">
 	  A8N-SLI Deluxe</a></td>
@@ -101,6 +137,13 @@
       <td>5.4-STABLE</td>
       <td>On-board audio untested.  The on-board sk0 ethernet controller h=
ad issues with 5.3-RELEASE.</td>
     </tr>
+      <td>Asus</td>
+      <td><a href=3D"http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=3D2&amp;=
model=3D237&amp;l1=3D3&amp;l2=3D14&amp;l3=3D67">
+	  K8V-X</a></td>
+      <td>VIA K8T800 / Socket 754</td>
+      <td><a href=3D"mailto:cracauer@freebsd.org">Martin Cracauer</a></td>
+      <td>6-betas, 7-current</td>
+      <td>On-board audio works fine.  The on-board sk0 ethernet works but =
is slow at about 33 MB/sec. Linux does 70 MB/sec reading, 48 MB writing on =
the same card so it's no hardware issue. ECC support. Drives your DDR400 me=
mory in DDR333 if you have more than one module and corrupts memory if you =
force it into DDR400. Only two fan connectors.  I like it better than the A=
bit KV8-Pro and that Asus K8N-E deluxe disgrace I had. WARNING: in the defa=
ult BIOS shipped switching back and forth between forcing DDR400 and autode=
tection, it would not reliably autodetect. If you go from forced memory spe=
cs to autodetection load the whole BIOS-wide factory defaults first. This i=
s a memory corruption issue so don't ignore this warning. Or don't play wit=
h the RAM settings to start from, there was nothing to be gained here. The =
board doesn't do DDR400 with two modules and it doesn't have a AGP/PCI lock=
 so both overclocking and RAM tuning are out. Just plug it in and leave it =
alone works best here. Overall, while I list my nitpicks, this is probably =
the best socket 754 board for reliable operations and complete FreeBSD supp=
ort, with ECC, temperature monitoring etc.</td>
     <tr>
       <td>Celestica</td>
       <td><a href=3D"http://www.celestica.com/products/AMDTechSupport.asp"=
>A2210-SCSI</a></td>

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