From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 2 06:45:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A3B16A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 06:45:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8A343D54 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 06:45:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iA26iwv00812; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:44:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Paul Robinson" , "Brett Glass" Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:44:58 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20041101162738.GE95472@iconoplex.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: RE: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 06:45:05 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Robinson [mailto:wiggy@servitor.co.uk]On Behalf Of Paul > Robinson > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:28 AM > To: Brett Glass > Cc: jsd@jdyson.com; Miguel Mendez; TM4525@aol.com; chat@freebsd.org; Ted > Mittelstaedt > Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence > > > > I honestly believe, joking aside, Stallman's original vision was about > producing a system for developers, not for users. Bill Jolitz thought the same thing about BSD, originally. Even said this explicitly. > > Plus, playing Devil's advocate, BSD has its own faults. > I would argue the faults are due to the faults of the copyright system at least how it's implemented in the United States. Speaking as a copyright holder who has got financial gain from copyrights, (although not a huge amount) death + 70 years is rediculous. It was a good thought that copyright be maintained to creators death. They wanted to get away from the sad stories of creators of materpieces dying penniless, while others made millions off their creations. That has been accomplished, although I am a bit uneasy with even this as being too long. But today, copyright has been abused and it is destroying creativity. Look up cases like Kahle v. Ashcroft to understand why. Ted