From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 13:24:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F901065687 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Received: from mail.callooh.com (chello062178170039.13.14.vie.surfer.at [62.178.170.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F948FC41 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Received: from jadzia.intern.creative.co.at (fw2.creative.co.at [193.81.98.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.callooh.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA5DOVhd071021 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:24:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) X-Authentication-Warning: lyekka.home.callooh.com: Host fw2.creative.co.at [193.81.98.66] claimed to be jadzia.intern.creative.co.at Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:24:31 +0100 From: tequnix@frogmi.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105142431.5e18d988@jadzia.intern.creative.co.at> In-Reply-To: <200811031138.38016.tabthorpe@freebsd.org> References: <200811031138.38016.tabthorpe@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-EATSERVER-Metrics: lyekka.home.callooh.com 1166; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8571/Wed Nov 5 12:25:50 2008 on lyekka.home.callooh.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (mail.callooh.com [62.178.170.39]); Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:24:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:24:36 -0000 Am Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:38:30 -0400 schrieb Thomas Abthorpe : > I submit to the court of pulic opinion that KDE4 *IS* stable on FreeBSD. I > would encourage you to check out the following resources while it may be supposed to be stable - it is, in my opinion, unusable. i tried to use it for several months now, and yesterday got happily divorced - our cohabitation did last for more than 8 years - and turned to xfce4. most annoying behaviour was: - used to freeze the desktop, panels, window-manager completely after ldap-server went away, no matter how long it was unreachable (i.e. a restart was enough). i think this has something to do with nsswitch.conf/libnss_ldap and dbus .. but xfce also use dbus, and here are no freezes .. - on my old (pentium3 i think) workstation at work, it used to freeze desktop etc. completely, as soon as the system load went above ~1.5, due to compiling e.g., now with xfce there is a notable slowdown, but it is still possible to work - after starting a java swing or applet application, desktop etc. freezes for several minutes - after browser hung due to flash/npviewer.bin problem, desktop etc. freezes for several minutes - startup took as long as it usually only takes for windoze systems (several minutes) conclusion: it was no longer possible to work, that is why i regard kde4 as completely unusable, at least on older systems. br, reinhard -- Save yourself! Reboot in 5 seconds!