From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 21 1:22:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp07.wxs.nl (smtp07.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FB437B400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 01:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from cb03 ([195.121.206.123]) by smtp07.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GRVM0O00.N13; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:22:00 +0100 Message-ID: <004701c1bab9$9c91c700$0300a8c0@cb03> From: "Nora Schram" To: "Roman Neuhauser" Cc: "Newbies FreeBSD" References: <002101c1b876$a08afec0$0300a8c0@cb03> <20020219155434.GZ418@roman.mobil.cz> Subject: Re: How to X? Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:24:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C1BAC1.F16706C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C1BAC1.F16706C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, thank you.... I was aware of the server-client contradiction in X = but I got confused anyway. To be specific: I develop database-oriented applications. The database = resides on the server=20 (Novell, now changing to FreeBSD) in multi-user mode. On the = workstations, my users expect=20 pretty screens. I have a large DOS application running and several = Access databases in the=20 development stage. So now I want to convert the DOS application to something that can = interact with Windows=20 programs and I would like to get rid of Access altogether. I think = Exceed offers the best=20 possibilities to do that. It would be lovely to convert all workstations = to FreeBSD but oh,=20 the work involved scares me! A completely different approach would be to use an Intranet, PHP and = MySQL. But then we=20 would have to live with a browser interface, greatly inferior to what = you can do with an good=20 development system. And that is my main question: which development system? Any hints = appreciated. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roman Neuhauser=20 To: Newbies FreeBSD=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:54 PM Subject: Re: How to X? > From: "Nora Schram" > To: "Newbies FreeBSD" > Subject: How to X? > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:53:31 +0100 >=20 > After reading many docs, I think this is the situation if I want to > use X: =20 You've got the names the other way around. See below. > 2. X on the server, plus files, databases > A Windows PC with a client program (Hummingbird Exceed?) to run X > in a window while having access to other Windows programs. Exceed is not an X client program, it's an X server. Netscape Navigator is an X client, xterm is an X client... If you want to run Exceed, you don't need an X server (most probably Xfree86) on the FreeBSD box. Just tell the applications on the FreeBSD box you want them to connect to the Exceed box, and they will do so. > 1. No X on the server, just files, databases > X on another FreeBSD box, possibly dual-boot with a Windows = version > Do I have to put my X-applications on every client or can I put > them on the server too? > > Is this correct? Are there other possibilities? You don't mention the nature of the work you want to perform. Is = it editing text files? Is it working with a database client app? = Those have network capabilities, right? =20 As for the text files: How about NFS? --=20 FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 4:40PM up 3 days, 18:06, 19 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C1BAC1.F16706C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, thank you.... I was aware of the = server-client=20 contradiction in X but I got confused anyway.
 
To be specific: I develop = database-oriented=20 applications. The database resides on the server
(Novell, now changing to FreeBSD) in = multi-user=20 mode. On the workstations, my users expect
pretty screens. I have a large DOS = application=20 running and several Access databases in the
development stage.
 
So now I want to convert the DOS = application to=20 something that can interact with Windows
programs and I would like to get rid of = Access=20 altogether. I think Exceed offers the best
possibilities to do that. It would be = lovely to=20 convert all workstations to FreeBSD but oh,
the work involved scares = me!
 
A completely different approach would = be to use an=20 Intranet, PHP and MySQL. But then we
would have to live with a browser = interface,=20 greatly inferior to what you can do with an good
development system.
 
And that is my main question: which = development=20 system? Any hints appreciated.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Roman = Neuhauser
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, = 2002 4:54=20 PM
Subject: Re: How to X?

> From: "Nora Schram" <nora.schram@planet.nl>
&g= t; To:=20 "Newbies FreeBSD" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
>=20 Subject: How to X?
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:53:31 = +0100
>=20
> After reading many docs, I think this is the situation if I = want=20 to
> use X:
 
    You've got the names = the=20 other way around. See below.

> 2. X on the server, plus = files,=20 databases
>    A Windows PC with a client program = (Hummingbird Exceed?) to run X
>    in a window = while=20 having access to other Windows programs.

    = Exceed is=20 not an X client program, it's an X server. = Netscape
   =20 Navigator is an X client, xterm is an X client... If you want=20 to
    run Exceed, you don't need an X server (most = probably=20 Xfree86) on
    the FreeBSD box. Just tell the = applications=20 on the FreeBSD box you
    want them to connect to = the=20 Exceed box, and they will do so.

> 1. No X on the server, = just=20 files, databases
>    X on another FreeBSD box, = possibly=20 dual-boot with a Windows version
>    Do I have = to put my=20 X-applications on every client or can I put
>    = them on=20 the server too?
>
> Is this correct? Are there other=20 possibilities?

    You don't mention the nature = of the=20 work you want to perform. Is it
    editing text = files? Is=20 it working with a database client app? Those
    = have=20 network capabilities, right?
  
    As = for the=20 text files: How about NFS?

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