From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 14:29:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A2F16A4CE; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346DE43D76; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:28:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0KMScCf010278; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:28:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Nate Lawson From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:09:48 PST." <20040120140012.N97860@root.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:28:38 +0100 Message-ID: <10277.1074637718@critter.freebsd.dk> cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha support.s src/sys/i386/i386 swtch.s src/sys/kern kern_shutdown.c src/sys/sys systm.h X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:29:02 -0000 In message <20040120140012.N97860@root.org>, Nate Lawson writes: >I'm not against this because of its size, I think it's the wrong way to >go. I'll agree that it is not the ideal direction, but considering that proper tracebacks for panics have been on the wishlist since before I got my commit bit, then I think it is better than nothing. It is interesting to note that most of the positive feedback I have had on this is from people who are not in the heavy-duty kernel development end of things, it is system administrators and people who use FreeBSD for doing embedded things >Most panics are >page faults so you have to go to the traceback anyway as knowing the >file/line of the page fault handler is not useful. I guess I'm getting a more specialized subset of panics reported then, (but then, why would people send page faults to me until they suspected some of my code ?) >I appreciate your desire to improve debugging and hope you'll be >interested in tackling some of the outstanding issues (like the ones I >listed). I'm all for improvements, but I'm also under imminent danger of being crushed if my TODO pile falls over, so somebody [tm] should beat me to it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.